Do you think the media contributed to the divorce of Tiger Woods and Elin Woods?
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December 30th, 2009
Ok, it is a given, that Tiger made mistakes. How many, we will never know. Some of those stories could be true, most of them could be true, or a few of them maybe true. But, the old adage, “where there is smoke, there is usually a fire,” might apply here.
It has been reported that the marriage is over. But, getting back to my question, did the media contribute too their demise. Personally, think the media really did a number on Tiger. For example, the media even interviewed people that Tiger dated in high school. Good grief…
In closing, people who follow the golf World know stories of other players who had their flings, but it was never made public. Tiger was not so lucky. Professional athletes have so many temptations…certainly more than us “average Joe’s!” Tiger hopefully, can put his life back together. Being a fan of Tiger, certainly hope so. Also, hoping Elin can be happy again. Cannot even comprehend her feelings. Such a sad story.
Footnote to the closing, we all have our crosses to bear and we all have made mistakes, hopefully, the public will embrace Tiger and not be judgemental. We shall see.
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I think the media contributed to the ruin of the Woods’ marriage if Tiger had been fucking them, but otherwise not.
Yeah, I think Tiger and his penis contributed to the divorce.
Tiger Woods made his own mistakes. he could not be happy with the fantastic life he was leading, he had to have more and thats greed. greed will catch you everyttime. news people are like police detectives, without arrest powers. if they smell a clue of something dishonest, they will follow it to the end. this was their job and sorry to say, “let the chips fall where they may”. greed will get you everytime.
Damn it @Simone_De_Beauvoir got i first , i was gonna say something like that .
Regardless of the media involvement if he hadn’t fucked around he wouldn’t have got divorced , though saying that what is to say that divorce wasn’t already on the cards….
Tiger Woods could not keep his pants zipped. i think that is the cause of his divorce not the media.
Yeah, I think the main contributor to Tiger Woods’ divorce was Little Tiger. The media reported a story, and make no mistake about it, a squeaky clean sports idol like Tiger revealed to have not one, but several mistresses is news. Dude was asking for trouble when he worked so hard to prune this image while bopping anything in a skirt.
@Marina oh, like i said in my question, he made mistakes! But, because something is written or said, does that make it true? Don’t think so! Tiger would have probably lost his marriage regardless, but the media did not help things. But, being a public figure, goes with the territory! Again, when the media goes back to his high school days to “dig up dirt,” please…
@Simone_De_Beauvoir is right on with that one.
Also…
Billion dollars + Media + Penis = Three Ring Circus
@ChazMaz noticed, you added media to the equation. That was my point! Sure, the “little head” did the thinking for the “big head” here, but the media added to the mess.
I look at the Media’s part in it this way.
People go to the beach, walk around the yard in a bathrobe or less, buy ice cream and cheat.
Most just do not have an army of people watching their every move.
It is not only annoying but makes for damage control a real bitch. In most cases it ruins any possibility to fix.
@ChazMaz my complaint was the media tried to “dig up dirt” from Tiger’s high school days! There has to be a line drawn somewhere!
@Cotton101 Just one mistress and cheating incident would have been enough to cause his wife to divorce him. She had confirmation of that (and more) through texts and through talking to the woman. The news resporting is all after the fact of their confrontation.
@Marina could not disagree more my friend…got a brother in law that was caught twice..he has been married 48 years. Certainly heard the tape…many marriages survive these kind of things..everyday!
There was a time the media kept their noses out of the affairs of the Rich & Famous.
Allowing them to handle it as they felt fit.
Take note of the Kennedy Boys.
I am with @Cotton101 on this one.
@ChazMaz yeah, they were lucky…as we know, now there are so many more news station.
@Cotton101 and many marriages also collapse under the strain of an affair. There are plenty of couples whose affairs have been scrutinized by the media who stayed together (Bill and Hillary Clinton, Bill and Camille Cosby, John and Elizabeth Edwards, etc.). The media is not to blame for Tiger’s divorce. Tiger, his libido, and the state of his marriage at the time of his affairs are to blame.
The fact is that Tiger used his fame to make a boat load of money. He used the carefully manicured image of an All American Boy to make a fortune for himself. Tiger willingly put himself out there in order to make money, he deliberately played up his image as a good guy in order to make money. When someone does that sort of thing and their personal life is completely at odds with their image they are just asking for trouble. Celebrities can’t have it both ways. They can’t go to the media every other day for self-promotion then expect the media to turn a blind eye to their transgressions.
but, SuperMouse my question was did they contribute to the divorce? Sure, what you said is a given…but, when the media goes to his high school to “dig up dirt,” that is way too far in my book. Also, do you believe everything the media prints? We have no idea how much of that was true. Sure, the marriage was probably doomed..and Tiger only has himself to blame. My point, the media destroys people’s lives with their, often times, garbage!!
@Cotton101 it’s not the media I believe, it’s his statement about his ‘transgressions’, the fact that he is taking a hiatus from golf (something he loves) and the pictures I saw of his wife unhappy, without her wedding band and moving out.
@Simone_De_Beauvoir well, that is a given…not my point! The media went to his HIGH SCHOOL and tried to “dig up dirt!” Gosh, there has to be sense of fair play.
The marriage probably would have never survived without the media, but we will never know. Marriages are saved everyday from infidelity. My brother in law was caught twice, but they have been married for 48 years.
Just thought i had a point here…still do!
@Cotton101 look, I don’t know about your brother in law and why his partner chose to stay with him twice (!) but that’s not how it should work.
@Simone_De_Beauvoir loll..life is full of changes…is there a set pattern! not in most people’s lives. People make mistakes..people change! My brother in law is very happy now. That happened when he was a young man, but she saw the good in him.
@Cotton101 um, there is a pattern if you do it again.
@Cotton101 I meant there is a pattern if you do it again. Edited.
It’s a given that Woods brought himself down. But the question is, did the media contribute to his divorce. I don’t think so. That was probably a fete accompli. However, I do believe the media informs our positions and opinions and so-called knowledge about virtually everything, and that worries me far more than an athlete falling off his pedestal. My first real job was with a New York newspaper, and you can believe me when I tell you that journalism has changed a lot since then. As for “celebrity journalism,” I think it’s sickening.
I should have said… “informs TOO GREATLY our positions, opinions and so-called knowledge…”
Obviously Tiger made some HUGE mistakes, and couples have divorced for much less severe problems. If he had cheated on his wife with only one woman instead of [insert number here… I don’t keep track], things may have been different.
The media, I think, probably put a lot of pressure on the family. With so many people watching and commenting on Tiger’s behavior, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had some influence. If Tiger had not been the most famous golfer in the country (or the world), the result may have been different. But then again, if Tiger had been a normal guy he probably wouldn’t have cheated that much. Well, maybe not. No one can know for sure if it was his fame that drove him to cheat or his own shortcomings as a husband.
Then again, if my husband cheated on me that much, he would be gone. So the media, in this case, probably didn’t do that much but make the entire country angry at him, not just his wife.
No, I think it just really amplified a bad situation. Tiger Woods not only cheated on his wife, but he’d been doing it pathologically and with a lot of women for years. One would be enough, but the sheer amount is embarassing, especially when you have kids together. Once you find out that someone has been living that kind of extracurricular life, you have to deal with the painful fact that you may not really know the person you’re with. Trusting anyone after that point of betrayal would be very, very difficult.
Even if the media were not involved, if she had actually found out what was happening, I’ll bet she would have walked anyway.
“Tiger Woods not only cheated on his wife, but he’d been doing it pathologically and with a lot of women for years. One would be enough,”
I am sorry people. A billion dollars changes everything. If only they were allowed to figure it out without everyone in the world involved.
Their biggest problem is now they have to have the worlds aproval.
lot of answers missed the target…again, my question was, did the media contribute to the situation? sure, Tiger made some huge mistakes. How many we will never know. The media has a way of embellishing the situation. Plus, my biggest point, was they went to his HIGH SCHOOL and tried to “dig up dirt!” The media in this country has gotten “out of hand!”
Again, Tiger made some huge mistakes, but not my place to judge the man. He who is without sin, “throw the first stone!” Keeping my stones to myself!
@Cotton101 You don’t seem to care for anwsers that do not agree with your point of view.
Seems to me that some here feel the same way Marina! I’ve not been argumentative! Noticed a couple of the remarks made earlier that suggested they did not like my answers.
Simone, if my memory serves me correctly, I made the post. So, if it is okay, will read the answers to my post. Hope that is okay with you!
Let me say this as clearly as you worded your question. No, I do not think the media contributed to Tiger’s divorce. If their marriage was strong to begin with and they both made the commitment to repair the damage, their marriage would have withstood the challenge. Bill Clinton discussed the unseemly things he did to Monica Lewinsky with a cigar. The media covered this stuff ad nauseam, dug deeply into Clinton’s past, and provided years worth of fodder for tabloids and late night comedians. Bill and Hillary decided to stay married – regardless of the media attention.
Is it out of hand that reporters went to his high school to get some scandalous? Maybe, maybe not. Journalism in this country has a long and storied history of sensationalism. People who make their living in the public eye know this.
Modified to add: @Cotton101, I think Simone was referring to you discontinuing reading the stories about Tiger’s high school transgressions, not this thread.
Let me say this as clearly as you worded your answer SuperMoose. Yes, I do think the media contributed to the divorce. Who was mostly at fault, that would be Tiger…A GIVEN..
My post had nothing to do about the strength of their marriage. We are talking about the media that went to Tiger’s high school and to “dig up dirt” about his relationships in high school. The man is 33 years old. That was almost 20 years ago.
Fine, you guys don’t agree…cool..could care less, but everyone keeps getting off the subject of the post. Would the divorced have occurred without the media telling stories that could be true, might not be true, and we know one of them was true as they had the tape recording, we never know.
Could care less if you agree with me…Don’t take my questions and answers seriously..it is you guys that are getting bend out of shape because I don’t agree with you. Seems like a Fluther gang up to me…
@Cotton101 because by reading about it, getting pissed off, talking to others about it, you’re contributing to this issue NOT becoming old news, like it should have been weeeeeeks ago and in your own wonderful way, you’re contributing to the woes of Tiger.
@Simone_De_Beauvoir I’m not pissed off about Tiger’s mistakes! Just discussing the post. That is all..
Contributing to the woes of Tiger…good grief..where did you come up with that?
@Simone_De_Beauvoir You will never see me lose my cool over something that I’ve no control over! Just stating my views on the issue. Will not back down one inch…if I think, I’m right…
@Cotton101 pissed off about the media, you are pissed off at them, not at Tiger – he seems to represent something to you, why do you even need to protect him? contributing to the woes of Tiger was tongue-in-cheek…which I hope is all this entire thing is
@Cotton101 your position was clear in the question, I never needed clarification on your opinion. Upthread you complained that many answerers are losing track of the original questions, I intended that post to get back to the question as originally posed. I was under the impression that you posted your question in order to begin a discussion, my posts were merely a contribution to that discussion.
BTW, of course you are commenting on the strength of their marriage. The strength of their marriage is most certainly the basis of whether or not it will stand – with or without media attention.
@Simone_De_Beauvoir, if I may be so bold, may I share my take on your quip? @Cotton101 continuing to discuss this subject and keeping it alive after time has passed and it has fallen off the magazine covers could contribute at least slightly to Tiger’s woes.
Cool….see your views..not a problem here!
My post was about the media more than Tiger…again, going to his high school to “dig up dirt,” seemed off base to my thinking! Whatever that is worth!
@cotton 101: You asked a question – “Did the media contribute to the divorce…?” then used for an example going to the high school to dig up dirt.
From what I can see from my answer and others is that people stated YES or NO and then told you whether or not the media role may have been a little extreme, but not a contribution to the end result – as Tiger’s behavior completely overshadowed any sensational media coverage.
I’m not sure how that doesn’t answer your question or is that you’re looking for a specific answer?
Tiger is an example of an Adult behaving like an Adolescent.
I empathize with his wife and Children .
He needs Professional help .
I can not comprehend why many successful Men behavior this way.
It is as if he punished himself because life was too good.
My Heart breaks for his Children . Money can not make up for a good Father .
The Media rarely ever gets the all the facts right . Unless there is something in it for them or one of them .
@figbash well, in your mind it overshadowed his behavior…In my mind, Elin and Tiger might have had a chance, but the media would not give it up. Simone was talking about “beating a dead horse,” well, the media did just that. Plus, in prior comments, said, “how much of what the media said, do we know to be the truth!” Certainly know the one with the tape recording to be true…the others, who knows!
It is okay to be critical of the media here…is it not?
@Cotton101 of course it’s okay to be critical of the media – but for this of all things? how about lack of journalistic integrity on Fox news?
oh, vote for that Simone…we could talk about that for days!
@Cotton101 nothing to talk about. fox news is not news.
well, we could talk about it, but you would be correct!
I think the media made it impossible for his wife to bury her head in the sand but at the same time I think it gave her the courage to do what she wanted to do because she was already embarressed nation wide so a divorce would only make her look justified. If the media would not have said anything than chances are she would’ve stayed because his PR people would’ve made her look like she wronged this swell guy. However I think all the media did was help along something that was going to happen down the road. Eventually he would’ve dropped her for someone younger. All the media did was make it an even playing field.
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