How far would you go for the person you loved the most?

i must have seen this 100 times now(not on here), where does it keep coming from? whats the source or author?

@poisonedantidote
I saw the specific example on a youtube video, but I have been struggling with the idea for years. I am sure many other people have similar issues.

I try to help but then natural selection takes over if they are that spaced out and doesn’t see a big fucking hole in the ground then…ya

I don’t know your reasoning behind this question or maybe you are studying psychology and trying to figure-out how other people think. To answer your question: I believe in the God of Abraham Isaac, and Jacob. The Lord in Heaven can fill that “hole” which you are referring to any time he wants. When there are warning signs towards others that to not go any further- I believe that as human beings- We have the choice to listen and obey the signs or ignore them. There are times when God even grabs our arm(s) and pulls us back. There are many times when we as humans do not believe that he knows best and just keeps walking into the pit-fall. Does that answer your question?

@jackm yea, i think i have seen it on youtube too.

well, i think the problem with this piece of text is its not really an argument against the existence of a god as it is against the existence of a benevolent god that intervenes.

@fancyfeast
My point is that if my son was walking toward the pit, I wouldn’t simply put up signs that he can choose to ignore, I would grab him and pull him away. God not only doesn’t do this, but he doesn’t even put up obvious warning signs.

@poisonedantidote
Yes, but the god of all the major world religious is benevolent and all powerful.

@jackm still quite easy to bypass though “he lets us fall in because he wants us to learn how to cope without him’’ and then go on to speculate about whatever motives.

@poisonedantidote
My point is that if you or I loved someone, we would not let them fall in no matter what. If we knowingly let someone die just to prove a point or teach a lesson we would be called crazy or psychotic. Why do we not apply this to god?

@jackm ’‘oh, but he loves us as the human race, not the same as a mothers love’’ or any other thing.

im an atheist my self too btw, its just i don’t really like this particular text cause i think in the context its used, as in a form of debate, it plays in to your opponents hands by letting them talk about what gods motivations are, instead of if there is a god or not.

To answer the first question. I would do EVERYTHING I could, even if it meant running ahead of them and blocking them from going any further and yanking their headphones out and showing them what they were heading toward.

I have always wondered the same thing about this almighty God that loves us with a little bit of a different example. I have wondered if there is this god that loves us and wants to protect us, why is there war, why is there so many innocent people dying ? Why is there children starving ? Why is there so much hate in the world ? I just wonder about so many things that “god” is supposed to be able to change, but doesn’t.

If god is real, and just chooses not to change these things that definitely wouldn’t be the god I would want to look up to for support and stuff

So at first I thought this was interesting, then I realized it’s your usual run of the mill god question – no thanks.

God doesn’t cause suffering. God doesn’t cause famine, hurricanes, death, sadness, disease, war, etc. These things are caused by nature and humans and chance. God told humans what to do and what not to do and yet people don’t follow it. That is not God’s fault. It is the fault of the people who do not follow God’s teachings. If everyone followed them, there would be war, there wouldn’t be hate, there wouldn’t be murder, there wouldn’t be abuse. But we have free will and some of us choose not to follow God’s teachings.

Why does God allow bad things? The same reason that God allows muscular dystrophy or hurricanes. For the same reason that God allows cancer that will kill someone. For the same reason God allows all evil: we, as humans, have a sinful nature that cannot be denied. It brought evil into the world, and with it, evil things like disease.

God wanted us to have free will; he wanted us to be able to choose. He knew we would choose the wrong thing at times, but that was worth it to him. He wanted followers who chose him, not followers who were blindly tied to him.

God never claimed that life on earth would be perfect. In fact, it is quite imperfect. But it is a test for the life that comes after life on earth.

Those are just my ideas; anyone can disagree and argue them.

well, if you must know, not very far.

well, I’d give my life to save the person I love, mostly because I don’t think I could live with myself knowing I could have saved them and didn’t. Now, I don’t believe in god, but the question itself presumes to know the will and motives of the god of which you speak. Since god by definition is beyond human understanding how can we presume to know or judge the actions of a being we can’t even begin to comprehend. Perception changes a lot of thing’s as does knowledge – perhaps god understands that death in human terms is nothing more than a transitory phase, or that the hole of which you speak is not what it appears when viewed from beyond our 4 dimensional perceptions. The point is how can a being of limited knowledge even begin to fully understand the motives of a being of limitless knowledge. If I know that A will beget B and B is desired I will do A but if I knew it also instigated C, D, and E all of which were undesired perhaps I wouldn’t do A at all.

@Simone_De_Beauvoir well said. me too.

God isn’t human or even corporeal, so his “actions” or lack thereof can’t be explained by human actions or tendencies.

We talk about God’s “love” but what does love mean or look like in an eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, metaphysical creator-being? Why would (how could!) it look anything like love in us: mortal, fallible, temporal creatures?

If this quandary caused you to deny your faith, you couldn’t possibly have had any faith to begin with. I’m not trying to insult you, I hope I haven’t hurt your feelings: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being atheist, I’m married to one! I just want to encourage you to realize that you never had any faith (or if you did, you “lost” it before this point). Accepting what you’re told without questioning it isn’t faith. If you don’t question your faith, you don’t have any. I just don’t want you to fall into that “logic made me deny God” trap. God is a-logical. Logic can’t begin to explain God. The two aren’t “incompatible” like

Not all of God’s actions are explicable in human terms. Not all deaths are tragic. Not all holes lead to hell.

Damn! Loved the title. Hate the question. I was going to say, “all the way to California.” Oh well.

”How far would (I) go for the person (I) loved the most?”
Pretty damn far; even into harm’s way.

”Why does God not do the same?”
Because he’s most likely not real.

I would do anything and I mean anything for the one I love, and that includes death. God doesn’t stop these things that happen to us, because he is a fictional character. People escape death due to luck, that’s all. I’m not saying you shouldn’t believe, it is what you have been brought up to believe, so that is part of your life.

To the moon and back