Do you suppose that it's the goal of the average minority to no longer be considered such?
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January 15th, 2010
For instance, once upon a time the Irish were a minority population in the United States, and faced lots of discrimination. Now, nobody really cares anymore (though they may not be a numerical minority anymore).
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i beleive any group considered to be a minority would feel uncomfortable – if the majority unkowingly or intentionally makes the the minoroty population feel inferior to the majority. Yes i beleive that is one of many goals for a minority group
There’s a big difference between the Irish (and other once discriminated against Western European minorities, even Jews to a large extent), namely that once you lose the accent, it’s pretty hard to tell who is Irish and who is not. When you have entirely different skin color, eye shape, etc. it’s pretty hard to just blend in. It seems to me that we haven’t yet learned to accept minorities who fundamentally look different.
I don’t think you can talk about any minority group as a single entity – different members of the minority will have different goals and aspirations.
I have trouble seeing “minority” as being something that a group can be “considered.” A group is either the majority or the minority, there’s no two ways about it. People of irish descent are still technically a minority in America, it’s the attitude towards them that has made them seem like a non-minority, because it’s not an issue to be Irish anymore.
For example, it’s not the goal for gay rights activists for gay people to become the majority. That makes no sense. The goal is for attitudes to change so that it’s not a problem to be gay. When you treat everyone the same it doesn’t matter who’s a minority and who’s not.
What is your “average minority”? Being the victim of bigotry is not a singular experience; it is experienced differently on a group and individual level. The experience of a black woman will not be the same as the experience of a white, gay man. And not all black women nor gay men will have the same experience.
Having said that, the basic of goals of all people, beyond the basic necessities, I would think are universal: to be loved, to be accepted and to be understood.
in reality people don’t think like you – there are only a few responses to this question – even if a ahundred people shared feed back in a positive manner – the truth of the matter is even with all of our efforts combined we couldnt make the majorities see our points of veiw ( if they were the same of course ) but theere is in fact power in numbers expanding your numbers in america is exactly what mexicans, irsish people, basiclly any minority group or race or whatever ( im not savy on those terms so fogive my ignorance please ) are all trying to do – its one of the reasons we had issues in america with organized crime syndacates – americans make people who look, talk, and are flat out not american feel uncomfortable for it – we even would kill minorities – and minorites increased there nubers and started fighting back physically – and it made a pretty valid – as along as we mutiply our nu,bers and fight ( the right way not just physical ) our people oneday will be considered equals – sorry to ramble
Everybody is some sort of minority in this country.
You can be a racial minority, an ethnic minority, a cultural minority, a religious minority…
I’m fairly certain there are currently more women than men in the United States. That makes males the minority.
Only 10 – 18% of Americans are confirmed atheists.
Less than ½ of 1% of Americans are Gypsies/of Rromani decent.
I think we just all want to be loved and accepted for what we are – even if it’s a gay male Rromani atheist.
I don’t think have a goal to not be a minority. I think they have a goal of being treated equally with the majority.
The average is not a Minority ; averages form by far, the Majority!!LOL
After all, they think, ‘there is safety in numbers’ ;)
So they all do the same thing and same beliefs
Over 95% fits into this category
Their goal? well not sure about that o.o But in time Minorities won’t be minorities anymore because of the fact you gave about Irish people. People wont care after a long period of time.
And i read you comments/questions in a british accent due to your Avatar. :D
@Marina Me too. All I want is equal treatment. Minority/majority be stuffed. Now it would be easier if I was of the majority populace, but equal footing is the only thing that I care about. That includes in Eastern Europe, may the old gods help them.
By this question, I think you mean “Is it the goal of the average minority to assimilate?”
And there’s no answer to that question that works for everybody. It’s a dilemma that is faced by each individual. I’m Turkish, but my family has been here for several generations and my upbringing was very American. (My grandparents were Muslim, my mother was Christian, and I am not religious, for example.) I’m interested in learning more about Turkish culture, but I don’t know if I could live with every part of it as my lifestyle.
My friends who are minorities are very successful at navigating American culture and their own culture. They pursue higher education or work professional jobs, but they also eat food, listen to music, and speak the language of their home country. In the past, minority assimilation has been seen as very either/or: either minorities were portrayed as foreign and exotic or model citizens who were very Americanized. I think we’re heading in a more progressive direction.
I personally can’t wait for the year 2040. White people will finally become the minority. I think a lot of things hinder on race. A lot more than most of us would like to admit. I will be the first to admit, Irish or not, that I am happy to a white male in todays society but I will also be the first to jump up and down when I am the minority in this world.
@judochop – Let’s hope minorities are treated better by then, eh?
You have to stop using the word “minority” to mean “people who experience discrimination”.
It’s ignorant.
My ethnic group is in the minority in this nation, but we’ve ruled it for almost three centuries. We won’t for much longer, and that’s the way of the world.
I think the goal of many people who are the minority is to achieve success given the odds against them – they don’t consider assimilation as a necessary end in it of itself but as an end that is safer and more stable – this is unfortunate, imo and shouldn’t be something everyone needs – everyone should be able to live without having to assimilate completely.
Would you believe that ALL of you, except maybe @Haleth, missed the point of my question? I suppose I’m partly to blame for not wording it differently.
Alrighty then.
I shall state it another way, maybe I shall be clearer: I, as the member of a dinky and generally disliked minority, do not want lose my cultural and ethnic identity. I also do not want to stand behind a brick wall and separate myself from people who are not like me. I like my cultural and ethnic identity and I do not give two squirts what “race” someone is as long as the person and I get along. That is what matters.
If I could wave a magic wand and become white, I would not do so even with the fact that my life would be easier. I am too comfy in my own hide and like my heritage too much for that.
It has nothing to do with being a minority or wanting to be of the majority. It has everything to do with liking myself as I am and believing that treatment should be equal, no matter who you are.. minority or majority.
I cannot speak for “the average minority.” I can just speak for me. I would not change myself to become part of the “majority.” I also, if I happened to be of the majority, I would not want to change. I would still be happy the way I am.
If I still do not get it, oh well. Maybe, just maybe, you are not getting what I am saying.
@Nullo I don’t think I missed the point, at all. I followed what @Haleth said.
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