What happens if the end of the world never occurs?
What happens if the world does not end tomorrow or in 2012? What if there isn’t a global meltdown? What if the Armageddon Final battle never occurs? How does this change our collective response to the world’s problems of pollution, energy needs, starvation and interdependence? What if life and not death is the real problem?
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@SeventhSense just too much fun to let go? :)
If life is the real problem? I assume we MAKE it end.. do i get a cookie? :P
We will still the same as it’s never happen before (beside,it’s only a rumor and won’t affect most of human life).
There’s going to be a lot of 2012 T-Shirts out at garage sales!
T-Shirts that say “2012 came and went and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt”
I guess we’ll all have to repay those loans.
“How does this change our collective response to the world’s problems of pollution, energy needs, starvation and interdependence?”
If it does not end in 2012, then it means we still have time. But will we take advantage of the opportunity is the question.
The end will surely come for everyone, some in the next few seconds, others in minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years. . . . Personally, I don’t think about the end of the world prophesies. I’m more involve in my own life, how I can live it the way I want to.
The world will never end.
Y2k!! reminds me of the efforts Alberta hospitals went through to have everything Y2k proofed. How much many did that cost?!! I worked nights Y2k night and was very disappointed that nothing at all happened- one little glitch would have been fun.
We can’t afford to end. Where could we buy another planet as beautiful as this on right here?
@OneMoreMinute Magrathea. People have been predicting the end of the world ever since the world started, and every time, boring things happened. We will always have problems; we will always have solutions. When we die, we simply die, and hope we left something better off for those who will live past us, regardless of whether we pass away from mutant-lizard uprisings or liver failure.
@VohuManah….what is…. Magrathea?
and one more thing…. if worlds don’t end, how do you explain the asteroid belt?
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If life is the real problem? I assume we MAKE it end
living is the issue but dying does not solve it
Stop being stingy. Give a little peeps.
@Steve_A
Thanks Captain Obvious. Can we elaborate. This won’t be on the test.
@SeventhSense I had meant that I feel the likely hood of us doing anything more after this whole 2012 thing and its laid to rest. Because we are going to know when the year comes around if the world does end or not.
I think the real end of the world is the world as we know it , I doubt if anything can truly end it all but maybe it will be us, as in people become our own worst enemies.
I often wonder what future generations will see the world as or what it will be like for them, who knows I could be completely wrong and they will find a way out of what seems a growing energy problem.
I guess this whole thing is a big “what if” game so what do I know?
@VohuManah I’ll see your Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster and raise you six pints and a packet of peanuts. You foonting turlingdrome. ;-)
The Earth doesn’t need people. But people need the Earth.
You guys are KILLING me. Of course no one knows. Please someone….anyone…
I think in maybe the next 100 years or so the world may end.
I fear that people will over populate, world relations grow tense with giant hunger power countries, the economy still in the shitter , the energy problem never solved.
Basically rather than come together and fix problems we have been told right in our face and cold hard facts we did nothing.
The world ends in a massive conflict for survival of what’s left of earth.
Earth lasting forever to be sustainable to humans is impossible.
We know how to solve the energy crisis. We just have to do it.
@Steve_A
Pessimistic but at least you answered the question. +5
@SeventhSense Heh what can I say I am often like that.I figure hey expect the worse, and if it does not happen then it can only get better ;)
Then I guess the life will just go on, until the Earth can’t sustain life anymore.
It is all collective conciousnes and if we all sucumb to it it is depression. The reailty in the 1880 and 1920’s depressions where people were physically and mentally depressed is reocuring. And when that happens people stop, and that is not good for any economy. So, hopefully the world will have an awakening that they have been manipulated and stand up. For 3000 years certain people have wanted to control the world, Roman Empire, etc., and what an easier way to achieve it by getting the people scared, desparate and then to have them succumb to their desires. Hopefully, more people see through it and who the true culprits are and collectively change it for the better.
@Garebo
I agree that mob rules can be contagious and the pundits aren’t always right. Always a hill then a valley. Thanks.
@garebo Succumb to what desires? I can’t afford my desires.
@faye
Desire is more than material. We collectively desire pain and suffering. As odd as that seems we have an attachment to pain. But unlike what Garebo implies it doesn’t need to be sold to us. It’s our nature.
I don’t believe that @SeventhSense. I think we strive for and ‘desire’ contentment, peace of mind.
1st Noble truth- Life is Suffering
2nd Noble Truth- Desire is the Source of all suffering
Doesn’t that mean a more sexual or envious desire?
Desire is wanting/craving/dis-ease in any form.
Although dukkha is often translated as “suffering”, its philosophical meaning is more analogous to “disquietude” as in the condition of being disturbed. As such, “suffering” is too narrow a translation with “negative emotional connotations” (Jeffrey Po)[2], which can give the impression that the Buddhist view is one of pessimism, but Buddhism is neither pessimistic nor optimistic, but realistic.
The Buddha himself on Dukkha
“ Birth is dukkha, aging is dukkha, death is dukkha; sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, & despair are dukkha; association with the unbeloved is dukkha; separation from the loved is dukkha; not getting what is wanted is dukkha. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are dukkha.
Wikipedia
Let’s agree to disagree. I do like your posts, thought-provoking.
@faye
What are you disagreeing with?
OK. I think the hard part to accept is that statement-“humans desire suffering” at its face value independent of the product of our creations and constructs. The statement “May I please have a heart attack” seems ridiculous but our insistence on eating habits which would ignore our understanding points towards a foregone conclusion. Likewise we know at a fundamental level that a life for a life is a perpetual process which begets revenge upon revenge yet we still want to collectively imagine that war can be a solution. We know fundamentally there can not be a God who shows both love of all humanity and a predilection towards a particular religion but it doesn’t stop the jihad nor the crusade. We suspend our disbelief for this and countless others. Debt=Money from a fractional reserve standpoint makes absolutely no sense but we adopt the illusion knowing another collapse is imminent if we follow this fiscal policy. So yes I would say not directly do we desire suffering but through ignorance do we court it .
@SeventhSense very well said. Though I could refute each statement with examples. I do see what you mean if you take us as a group.
Well I don’t know what December 2012 will be like.
What I am REALLY looking forward to are the “After 2012 Clearance Sales” in January 2013!!!
The world will be fine. Never underestimate the power of greed. And they (those Illuminaughtys) currently are in control. or so I read.
Greed will save humanity. Unfortunately, many will get trampled along the way. But I think that the last man standing will be standing beCAUSE of greed.
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