Do you believe that the 'gods can be against us'?

…or time for one to begin ;)

I think that when something is on your mind, you notice things around you that remind you of it and this makes it seem that these things are more prevalent, but it is really your mind telling you what it is thinking about. It’s like when you get a new car, suddenly you notice those cars on the road when you never really did before. Your car starts to seem much more common than you thought it was.

No. You are just against yourself.

Fate is a tricky mistress, and not to be confused with deities of any sort. Deities run rampant through the landscape, touching off fires here and there, and never stopping to see the damage. Fate, on the other hand, is subtle. She shows her hand where she did nothing, yet fails to show her hand on her most dramatic interventions.

Fate however, is highly amused by the idea that people think she is telling them something. Normally Fate doesn’t pay much attention, but it did come to her attention a couple of millenniums ago that certain humans were trying to read some significance out of her actions. Fate laughed. She was fluther amused by the idea that anyone could figure out what she wanted, because she, herself, had no idea. It was all a joke to her.

Fate did give me, her pedantic oracle, a tiny message for you. She said to tell you that you should get a grip. She never even know about your troubles until I pointed them out to her just a few minutes ago.

@Snarp – I agree. It’s a similar effect to the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon – the brain notices patterns it’s been primed to notice.

fate isn’t against you, @definitive, but perhaps you’re becoming more aware of patterns of behaviour and emotional response in your relationship.

Only humans control actions, it makes life a little easier if we all take responsibiliy for our actions instead of pinning the work on something else that may or may not exist. This is just my opinion though.

Any time I hear the words “divine intervention” I tend to think that that person is not willing to accept responsibility for the way things really are. “It’s out of my hands…it’s divine intervention”. Relationships having rocky tough times is some of the most mind numbing trying times and it is almost impossible to see straight so it is easier to leave it all up to a deity to sort things out. I have no answer for you other than to take a step back and try and see things for what they really are and make your decisions from there. Good luck!

I believe it entirely possible that the thing we call god is within us all, we all connect back to it on the spiritual side and are merely imaginings acting out a story on the physical side. These sorts of continuous, constant, perfectly timed ‘coincidences’ are, therefore, very possibly acts of god, so to speak, because everything is.

Whether god wants anything more than to create an interesting story for itself tho I couldn’t even guess at. So I usually treat such happenings as interesting events, rather than divine direction.

(The divine direction happens automatically :))

Sounds so paranoid to me. I think we shouldn’t combine religion with reality. It’s more on human psychology than religion stuff anyway. If you (your instinct/common sense) think something is right then do it. You don’t need to correlate this to unrealistic reason.

@Doctor_D…my implication wasn’t specifically intended to have a religious notion. My term ‘gods against us’ was intended as a common expression…I’m actually not very religious.

I was merely questioning/pondering on events that have been occurring recently seem to be basically putting a ‘spanner in the works’ when I really want things to work and with my SO and move on.

i would first try to rule out weither or not a series of unfortunete events isnt cause by myself first, in the event that i am not the cause, it most certainly has to be the work of mother nature. i doubt that my god would purposely flip my life upside down. i think he would wait till i messed up, to step in and say ” now look at what you’ve done” . i know the feeling your asking about and for me its always because i did something wrong, im also not afraid to except the consequences of my actions.

While feet on the ground, It sounds to me like basically, you either know you want to end the relationship, or you think you need to for some outer reason. The way we react to things in our world, and the way we view them, is really the way our concious works to interpret things, it is all in our mind. in your case, things that you are repressing are arising to you concious through experiences you go through.
You either have a reason for which you think you “should” end the relationship, or you know deep inside yourself that ending it is what you need to do for yourself.

As for Devine Intervention:The things that happen in your life, that will bring up the “right” undrstandings and conclusions for your life right now, are manifested through the high-self, an unconcious part of you, or if you will, a function of the soul.

As for all the things and little details such as radio playlists, the right or wrong person @ the right or wrong time to crash your car and such, that gather up to the right circumstances to create those realities that will bring you to those understandings, that you can call Divine intervention, or just God.

I think my above question has led to misunderstanding…my SO broke my trust and I took the choice to try and understand his actions and perhaps forgive him?

My gosh is there a full moon tonight or something? Because it seems to be attracting the trolls.

Don’t bother… @fullnightblast

And are you sure you are complete with that descision?

@Cruiser hit the bullseye!

If you do something to undermine an intimate relationship, you can’t evade responsibility by attributing you actions to fate, the devil, G_d, or the Cosmic Muffin.

You make your own choices and you are responsible for the consequences. Not matter your faith, you must still deal with the one you hurt or betrayed.

Sometimes it just happens that way. If you flip a coin enough times, it does not alternate heads and tails. Events, like heads on the coin, tend to run in sequences in the short term and only appear alternately random over the long term. Sounds like you simply hit a bad streak-happens to me in Las Vegas at the craps table sometimes. Then it goes the other way…

Physicists have clear proof against fate. The future in our universe is open and it’s up to us to make it a good one. Love and kindness and be rekindled. Forgiveness is possible. I would recommend to talk to a counselor, a person you can trust and explain your situation.

No, no, the gods are never against us, they are always against them!