Do you think Family Guy went too far?

It’s a cartoon for Pete’s sake (and by Pete I mean Pete_the_pothead). If you take cartoons seriously enough to be offended by them you have other issues that need addressing.

Didn’t see it, but from what you’ve said, it sounds quite benign.

I think Family Guy is in the business of going too far. Every episode could be considered going too far in some direction. If you watch it, you have to accept that it always goes too far for someone and is offensive to them. If you don’t like that, vote with your eyes and stop watching it.

um, it’s a cartoon.. I agree with @Dr_C and @EmpressPixie

They have an episode where for quite some time they have newborns singing how they’re just a prom night dumpster baby.
The writer’s are smart. People are going to talk about how far the show goes and how offensive it is, which is great free publicity.

@ridicawu Yes, indeed. I appreciate their wit immensely.

I wonder if everyone would feel the same if they had done a show where they referred to Cleveland as a “nigger”?

If that offends you, then you must get offended by 5623985623 other films and television shows as well.

….I take it you’ve never seen South Park.

@fireinthepriory That’s exactly what I was thinking.

@jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities Great minds!

Keep in mind this is not a political issue for me. They could could have taken a shot at Palin without bringing in her 2 year old with down syndrome in it. I dont get offended easily Vunessuh. I am a big fan of the late George Carlin. I dont agree with everything Carlin said but He was freaking hilarious.

@ridicawu “I’m just a prom night dumpser baby. I got no mom or dad. Prom night dumpster baby. My story isn’t wrong but bot it’s awfully sad (ba dadada bum)...

That’s just what Family Guy does. Pushes the limits.

South Park has done worse. It’s art. Why the fuss?

I say “pull the stick out”.

This reminds me of all the debate that happened around depicting public figures in political cartoons.
rolls eyes

@Blondesjon I haven’t seen this episode, but I’m gathering they didn’t use an offensive word (like “retarded”) to describe the girl with down’s. If that’s the case, I don’t see how that compares with your example.

HEHE Looks like I opened a can of worms here. I’m sure if I made fun of a 2 year old with down syndrome I would probobly be chewed out.

That is the essence of family guy. If you can’t handle something like this, you probably shouldn’t be watching family guy at all.

Family guy is all about crossing that line. Crossing it like naked Fiona Apple, crabwalking across a line.

well, Sarah Palin’s kid is retarded. The girl was. It’s a given. Palin makes a lot of noise about her Downs kid; she’s setting herself up for it.

May i suggest you turn the station if you don’t like it? Perhaps there’s a channel where you just watch vanilla ice cream melt.

@augustlan . . . Why does it have to be a “word” to make it a bad thing? Would it be acceptable if they showed Cleveland with exaggerated lips and a huge fro, chomping on watermelon and cradling a bucket of fried chicken just so long as they didn’t use the word?

Why are folks so terrified of what amounts to air passed over a couple of muscles?

EDIT: It has always been my experience that a picture is worth a thousand words.

@Blondesjon Have you seen the episode?

@Blondesjon Point taken. So, did they portray the down’s girl in a degrading way? Or did they show her as a normal down’s syndrome individual, and the whole joke is that her mother is ‘Palin’? If it’s the latter, I still wouldn’t find it terribly offensive. It would be just like having the character date a black girl (portrayed normally) and implying that her father is ‘Obama’.

@augustlan . . . hell, i don’t know. i haven’t even seen the episode. i was just jumping in with my usual bullshit.

how’s your night going? :)

Everyone in the USA can watch for a more informed debate.

I’ve only seen one scene of the episode (I don’t have the time or patience to watch all of it today) but from what I saw she was portrayed as a strong character—not at all the stereotype of someone with Down’s Syndrome. She just made that one joke. Granted, I only saw the scene in the restaurant.

actually, the Downs chick was a total bitch, and treated Chris poorly. She was, in a certain way (bitchy), empowered.

I’ll say I was a little shocked, but only for a moment because after all, it is Family Guy. Pushing the envelope is part of free speech.

@eponymoushipster You have a valid point. She was a bitch. Just like her “mommy”.

Family guy is purely entertainment. You can’t take it personally. It’s a cartoon!! Who lets a cartoon influence their lives in any way? I know I don’t.

I would think people would find this infinitely more offensive. But no…

Watching the episode now. No one offended by the musical number about trying to impress women with downs syndrome?

That’s some cherry-picking right there, then.

It was informative, didn’t know Sarah Palin had a DS child. Now I do. It’s family guy we’re talking about. Anything goes in his world, and it does.

If they just left a real life 2 year old with down syndrome out of it. I would have not had a problem with it. It just seem really low to me to do that.

@Dr_C I think that was the show where they back into the 70/80s. All the Black people had big fros then :P

But it’s Sarah Palin. She’s fair game, and unfortunately, so are her kids.

@Facade I know. But still he was depicted that way. Either way I edited my response. The thing is that the show usually will point out and sensationalize stereotypes in order to show how silly they really are. No one is complaining about Peter Grifin’s attempt at speaking Italian.

i think the beauty of this show is that they can take something terrible, make a sharp point about it and keep it funny.

Ok, just watched the episode. Thoughts:

The song about impressing girls with downs syndrome had a lot more jabs at down syndrome than the rest of the whole thing put together. It might deserve a mention.

The girl in question was portrayed as an insensitive asshole who also happened to have downs syndrome. The point of that whole bit was expressed by Chris as something along the lines of (spoilers) “People are always saying that people with downs syndrome are different, and special. But your not. You’re all a bunch of #@#$s just like the rest of us.”

If anything, the “and my mom is the former governor of Alaska” was more of a “hey, Sarah Palin, stop treating your kid like he’s fancy and special and worthy of being protected in the news just ‘cause he’s got, like, a disease” than it was a “Ha ha your kid is messed up.”

I think it comes down to ratings, more people who watch the more money they make.

Bravo Family Guy. Even though I don’t watch it hardly anymore, I still like it.

The last stanza of lyrics from “Downs Syndrome Girl”, for reference:

My boy, between the two of us
We’ll get you on that shorty bus
And then we’ll take it for a whirl
Now go impress that super-thrilling
Wish-fulfilling, Yoohoo spilling
Ultra-swinging, boner-bringing
Gaily singing, dingalinging
Stupefying, fortifying
As of Monday, shoelace tying
Stimulating, titillating
Kitty-cat impersonating
Mega-rocking, pillow-talking
Just a little crooked walking
Coyly pouting, booby-sprouting
For some reason always shouting
Fascinating, captivating
Happiness and joy creating
(glass shatters)
Down’s Syndrome Girl!

I’m not easily offended, but I stopped paying attention to it after discovering Peter’s penchant for beating the shit out of his daughter for no reason.

@tentaclepuppy obviously you’ve never met one. that song hits it on the head.

plus, the way Stewie sings “syn-der-ome” is great…

@eponymoushipster Oh I’m not saying that it’s not spot on, it’s just that that kind of biting, humorous observation offends some people.

@tentaclepuppy well, it probably would twist Palin’s granny panties in a bundle, too, and she doesnt fit in with the group you linked to in your comment.

@eponymoushipster whoa. didn’t even read my own link. I always thought moonbat was a party-neutral term for wingnut, which I also thought was party neutral.

OK, I hereby replace my above citation with “total asshats.”

Better?

Funny about this whole issue. I just submitted a paper about this. I work for a non profit agency and we care for MRDD individuals. The state funds us and recently pushed me over the edge with some politically correct meeting that I writhed through. I maintain that they want to have it both ways. On the one hand, they want our individuals “normalized” out in the community. We’re supposed to pretend like they’re not different at all, is if “different” is somehow a bad thing. We can’t say words that mark them out as different in any way, as if one glance wouldn’t confirm that they are indeed, different. So what if they are? is my stance.
But on the other hand, they pull the discrimination card to get things for as many as they can whether they’re entitled or not. In the case of the young autistic man who attends college part-time. As a part-time student, he is not entitled to live in the dorm. He and some others filed suit citing that he was being discriminated against due to his autism, and consequently he’s living at the dorm now. Never mind that he’s a part time student. To me, this sends a message to the public that is inconsistent with the notion that we need to treat them like they’re not different.
I wonder how Sarah feels.
A friend of mine has two special needs sons, one is autistic, the other has downs syndrome. The older one with the autism works a few hours a week and attends college, the younger one has just graduated and she’s trying to keep him from wanting to work as he is unable to negotiate environmental dangers. She doesn’t want special treatment for her boys, but she is realistic enough to know that they will always need care and that they are visually different than the “average” person. She sees nothing wrong with this, and neither do I. We need to get past the idea that being different is bad, or that we can’t notice the differences.
I don’t watch family guy because I can’t get past the dog dating human females, but at least they have the balls to face some real issues rather than pretending like they’re not there.

You’re offended by the Sarah Palin reference in one joke but not the entire musical number about the girl? Or the lyrics?!

THAT is what you focus on?

What the eff.

But no, it’s a cartoon and one that’s always making edgy or inappropriate jokes. Move on, everyone else has.

Removed by me.

I just watched the episode. I lol’d. I barely even noticed the Sarah Palin comment; it was pretty subtle.

Removed by me in response to @asmonet‘s removal.

@tentaclepuppy: Yeah, I figured. I know it’s a disorder / syndrome, I deleted my post it’s too nit picky for this place. :P

@asmonet Cool.

I thought Family Guy was in the business of trying to get canceled again.

Fuck all those two year olds with Down syndrome who can’t take a joke.

@Blondesjon Just bein’ a rebel, huh? The night has been busy. Troll city! But I think we’ve got it under control. :P

People with Down’s Syndrome, not ‘down’s’ (like that is somehow less insulting than retarded) watch tv. It might be your child one day who is crying in your lap. Then you tell him/her not to be stupid and bothered by a cartoon.

@faye

Family Guy makes fun of everything, though. This is what I don’t get. It only becomes a problem when they make fun of your thing and that’s hypocritical. It’s the same thing that happened to South Park with scientology. Family Guy has made fun of gay people before. Didn’t bother me. They make fun of everything and their goal isn’t to spread messages of hate. It’s a comedy cartoon.

Frankly, I’m glad Family Guy and South Park do whatever they want. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it.

@DominicX You are so totally missing the point. Retarded kids and adults (doesn’t need to be a ‘syndrome’) watch tv and are hurt badly by this stuff. It’s not my thing. It should be everyone’s ‘thing’ to prevent needless cruelty.

@faye

No, I am not missing the point. I have a completely different point than you do. My point is that they make fun of anything they want to: relationship issues, homosexuality, politics, racial stereotypes, sexist stereotypes, even Down’s syndrome. (Frankly I found their treatment of Down’s syndrome to be pretty mild and far from “cruel”).

Evidence that they are “hurt badly by this stuff”? Don’t make claims if you can’t back them up.

You have a choice to watch it. You don’t have to watch it if you don’t like it.

Would you like me to find some retarded kids, show them the episode, watch them laugh and then realize and start to cry, film it for you and send it on? No doubt I haven’t seen it with Family Guy but I have seen it way too many times. I can back it up. When did you become like this? I have admired your intelligence. I can turn the show off, so can you but lots of people will be needlessly hurt without knowing what they did wrong.

@faye

You’re trying to argue from emotion and it’s not working.

So as soon as I disagree with you on something it’s all “what happened?”. Don’t expect to agree with people on everything.

Psst. Using the word “retarded” is considered offensive. Just a gentle hint.

I’m an old nurse, not a 17 year old boy. @augustlan Yes I know what is politically correct now. Some of us are offended by those being offended.

Wow, a crack about my age. Thanks for proving to me that you’re just like everyone else and nothing special. Sorry for bothering to talk to you.

A thought: If a person doesn’t have the capacity to understand that it’s a joke, they shouldn’t be watching a show like that in the first place. The whole foundation of a show like that is to be able to take a joke because they make fun of everything. I am not hurt by their gay jokes because I know it’s a joke and I know it’s supposed to be funny and I am able to take a joke about it. But if someone with Down’s syndrome cannot do that, then I don’t understand why they would be watching a show like that in the first place.

All you’re doing is arguing from emotion. You have no evidence, nothing concrete, nothing rational. Just “feel sad about this”. Not going to work on me.

I’m finding it very hard to understand how people can’t seem to grasp the basic concept behind shows like Family Guy, South Park and American Dad.

These shows sensationalize stereotypes not as a way of making fun of them but to show how absolutely ridiculous these stereotypes are. It’s satire people.

Getting offended because of the humor in these cartoon shows ony shows an inability to grasp that concept.

[mod says] Flame off, folks.

I want to apologise, I do speak from emotion, Thank gawd I still do.

Probably not in the best taste but I don’t watch Family Guy for the taste.

Family Guy is not really creative anyways. They rely almost completely on shock value. Which wears thin very quickly. The show once had kid dying of cancer and Peter got mad at him because he moaned while he was talking. That’s not comedy, that’s just cruel. Family Guy use to be creative but since Seth Mcfarlane ran out of ideas years ago he’s been using the shock value to gain ratings.

Well, yes, it is in bad taste…. but thats the point of Family Guy. Complaining that it’s in bad taste is like complaining that there was swearing in a South Park episode. If you find this sort of thing offensive, then there’s always The Simpsons or Futurama.

@Mikelbf2000 then why were you watching it, which, apparently, prompted you to post this question? or were you posting this question in the hope of shock value? TWIST!

If I choose to watch a programme that I know is famous for pushing the limits then I shouldn’t be complaining that I found it offensive. If I am watching something like a soap opera, normal kids cartoon or anything that is on before the watershed (which is 9pm in the UK) and I find something in it offensive then I can complain. That’s the whole point of having a watershed time. If you watch something that is on after the watershed then you do so with the knowledge that there could be something that you don’t want to see (or don’t want your children to see more to the point). Is there a watershed time in the US?

Is it wrong that I actually like programmes that have humour that is in bad taste at times? I find that they put things into perspective and laugh in the face of political correctness.

I don’t need to watch the episode in question to be able to comment on this. I know what type of humor is involved with Family Guy. If someone doesn’t like this type of humor they can change the channel. If you want nice and sweet you can watch Strawberry Shortcake.

@Mikelbf2000 I was talking to a friend last night about this, and that’s basically what they said. Even if one is not offended at all, the humour seems to wear thin as it’s never really relevant to anything. (Like Peter as a strawberry getting raped by a worm, or Stewie making Brian stroke his tail for like two minutes.)
On the other hand I guess it depends on what kinda humour you enjoy, I mean Family Guy isn’t popular for nothing.
Personally I prefer the Simpsons.

@Symbeline I prefer The Simpsons as well. Use to love Family Guy but obviously not any more. Matt Groening has more talent in the tip of his pinky than Seth Mcfarlane has in his entire body. Im not offended my Family Guy that much. More like annoyed. You really want to know my opinion on the type of humor that Family Guy presents. It takes no deep thought to come up with it. It is the type of humor that kids find funny because it offends their parents lol. Sorry but that’s how I see it. Simpson is a very complex and thought out show. Matt Groening doesn’t need to use shock value to make The Simpsons. He has creativity and Talent.

@Mikelbf2000 Indeed. The Simpsons is a lot more complex and thorough in its presentation of humour than some might think. Very intelligent, and it keeps up to date with everything, instead of just being weird with no point A. Everytime I watch an episode I’ve seen more than once, and that’s pretty much all of em, I pick up something new. It’s fantastic.

One thing about Seth MacFarlane though…I don’t get it. Never been much into Family Guy, but I’m madly in love with American Dad, which he’s also responsible for.
That show is damn hilarious, and the humour, while slightly mirroring FG, is a lot less random and in tune with each episode’s concept.
Anyway, Roger fucking rules. :D

@eponymoushipster “Sarah Palin’s kid is retarded”
Could you not come up with a better way of saying that?

I have not laughed so hard during ANY episode ever.

@judochop me too

I love the Simpsons but I think they are for people who can’t understand Family Guy.

@judochop

The Simpsons is my favorite cartoon and favorite comedy (I’m a fan of Family Guy, but I would definitely choose The Simpsons over Family Guy). The new seasons suck, though. :)

@judochop I might be guilty of that. I thought I understood it, only it didn’t appeal to me much.
Granted though, that people get all upitty on stuff they see on there is actually a lot funnier than the subject mater itself.
They might think the same of me finding it lame that Peter beats his daughter though.

@Symbeline
Peter does not beat his daughter, he just ignores her. I can’t recall any episodes where he beats her at all. I do recall an episode where he defended her though.

@judochop There was one episode I saw that he hit her with a baseball bat in the night, under the pretext that he was testing it out to see if it would work on intruders. I think he also purposely spilled hot soup on her when she was sick in bed. There might be more, but I haven’t seen enough of them.

I also remember an episode where he drug his wife down the steps and punched Chris in the face with a fork. God, I love Family Guy.

@rangerr like how….?

Sarah Palin’s kid is retarded….obviously.

seems to work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation

The term “mental retardation” is a diagnostic term denoting the group of disconnected categories of mental functioning such as “idiot”, “imbecile”, and “moron” derived from early IQ tests, which acquired pejorative connotations in popular discourse. The term “mental retardation” acquired pejorative and shameful connotations over the last few decades due to the use of “retarded” as an insult. This may have contributed to its replacement with euphemisms such as “mentally challenged” or “intellectual disability”. While “developmental disability” may be considered to subsume other disorders (see below), “developmental disability” and “developmental delay” (for people under the age of 18), are generally considered more acceptable terms than “mental retardation”.

it’s only an insult if you choose to view it as such.

@rangerr if i was even worried about that, would i have even responded to you?

@judochop No offense but I don’t think theres much to understand about Family Guy. It is very predictable. Use to be very unpredictable. The humor it use to bestow at one time was great. Here’s the show as it is today. Peter farts, Peter farts in Megs face. Peter does something stupid(one of the few funny things left in the show). Farts jokes are funny but if its in every episode then it wears thin. What really annoys me about the show that it’s becoming increasingly biased. Used to be very unbiased. They use to make fun of everthing. Now they make fun of everything that is opposite of what Seth Mcfarlane believes. True comedy is unbiased. Like Dave Chappelle, George Carlin. Saturday Night Live, etc.

God I love First Amendment issues. Everyone is all about free speech for certain things, but once it attacks something they either value or have some sort of “protective” feeling over, it shouldn’t be allowed.
If you honestly have a problem with something involving free speech, then ignore it. Something on the TV you find offensive? Turn it off. You have the choice to do that. Don’t piss and moan about something you can control. I’m not a fan of certain parties and things that free speech protect, but hell, they have the right to do what they do. Whining about it doesn’t do anything. You control yourself, you control the situations you choose to be in. If Family Guy is on and you’ve found it offensive in the past, don’t watch it. If you find the Nazi party offensive, you don’t go to a rally of theirs. If you find Fox news offensive, you don’t sit there watching it in it’s entirety, complaining the entire time. To do so is idiotic and just completely pointless.
And stop with saying others are offended. Do you know this for a fact? Did you survey people with Down Syndrome asking them how it affected their life? No. I don’t think to myself “Babies might be offended by Stewie because he portrays babies in an inappropriate and unrealistic matter. Babies must be pissed.” It sounds ridiculous (because it is)!
Anywho, you don’t argue that you will sit down the group that is supposedly offended by the show and have them watch it and then record their reaction just to prove a damn point. That, not the show itself, is cruel.

Moral of the Story: Don’t like it, don’t be involved with it. Don’t bring others into your view points unless you know for a fact they feel the same.

@ridicawu I never said that they shouldn’t be allowed to do it. For crying out loud did you ever read the thread and noted that I WAS a Family Guy. Did it ever cross mind that maybe, just maybe I didn’t want to stop being a fan of the show. That I wanted to continue to love the show. That maybe I try to still enjoy the show even with the baised and cruel attacks on things Seth Mcfarlane doesn’t like. You probobly just read the question and started your own long winded bitchfest over my question. They have the right to write what they want and I have the write to voice my disapproval something when I think something went too far. Yes I know for a fact that others were offended. what is wrong with you people I criticize a show and you act like I’m trying to kill everything you hold dear. You tell me it’s just a cartoon but appearantly you all hold it dear enough to stand up to defend it. I’m not trying to stop it. I’m just criticising it. I am not bringing anyone to my viewpoint. Nobody put a gun to your head and said to see things my way. I was just debating. Your long winded nonsense was in no way relevant to my question. It was more relevant to you complaining about me complaining about a show you like. People complain about what I like and I just explain to them why I like it it a nice civil manner and I dont try to make them look like douchebags, unlike what you all are trying to do to me.

Correction, Not all of you are trying to make me look like a douchebag LOL but a few of you really sounding annoyed at what boils down to just my personal opinion

@Mikelbf2000 , Definitely not aimed at you. My response was mostly towards (earlier in the thread) Faye. I got upset at the thought of someone saying they’d sit down some people with Down Syndrome and have them watch it to record their reaction. It got me put a bit over the edge with the topic.
And I totally have no problem with people not always approving of things. Once again, totally just the idea of the forcing others to watch something that can possibly offend them just to prove a point.
Sorry for that communication mishap, it definitely wasn’t aimed towards you at all (which is why it probably seemed irrelevant to your question).
side note, I haven’t been much of a Family Guy fan for a few years. Too much time wasters put in, in my opinion

@ridicawu For gawd’s sake, I was reacting to someone else’s comment. I don’t think anyone would do that. How the f**k would I know it for a damn fact unless I did do it which nobody would do??!!

@faye “Would you like me to find some retarded kids, show them the episode, watch them laugh and then realize and start to cry, film it for you and send it on?” That was an extreme thing to say, and just as you reacted to someone else’s comment, I reacted to that.

@ridicawu and did you read the post before mine that I was commenting to? and enough of this stupidity

Let’s drop this conversation and the use of the word “retarded”.
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@faye , yes. I read that. I was feeling similar to how @DominicX was feeling on the topic. I’m honestly a bit confused why anyone would take my rant about free speech and my personal disagreement I had with certain things that had been said in this thread to heart so much. I didn’t know the internet was so emotional.
Just a little disclaimer or such, I understand personal opinions and I don’t get pissed about those. I get pissed about people whining about something they don’t have to involve themselves in when they don’t like it in the first place. Why put yourself through that?
And, I must ask, what stupidity?

i think you have to be pretty retarded yourself to not realize that it’s a cartoon, and one known for pushing the envelope, so to speak.

^

@eponymoushipster I think you have to be pretty retarded to think Family Guy is creative, It’s not. Yes I used the word retarded. I dont have a problem with that world. I only have a problem with rich, arrogant douchebags like Seth Mcfarlane attacking a woman by taking a jab at her 2 year old with down’s syndrome. That’s not comedy, that’s spite.

@Mikelbf2000 so you did ask this question with a predetermined viewpoint? fantastic. we’ve cleared that up. kudos for you, homeslice.

that said, no one said it’s creative. it’s damn funny, but creative and damn funny are two separate phrases.

kinda ironic you dislike a show on Fox, but apparently watch Fox News

via

Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress who herself has Down syndrome, said the scene was merely meant to be sarcastic.

“I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor,” she said in an e-mail to the New York Times. “I thought the line ‘I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska’ was very funny. I think the word is ‘sarcasm.’ In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life.”

@eponymoushipster No it’s not damn funny, It’s damn funny when they first do a joke and it wears thin after about the hundereth time. Peter farted and it was hilarious. You all ate it up, I laughed my ass off as well, So they did over and over and over again. It’s not funny anymore. The show is not funny anymore. It’s just recycles old jokes and keeps on throwing cultural refrences of 80s shows that anyone under the age of 25 will not get anyways. I know my viewpoint on the show. I asked everyones opinion the show. some disagree with me while understanding my view on it. Others acted like i sought to destroy everything they hold dear. Im not. Creativity is part of being funny. I say a joke one day and you laugh. If I come up to you say the same joke everyday then it’s not funny anymore. How would you know if I watch Fox News. Because I’m not a liberal? Well I dont watch the news.

@Mikelbf2000 then i suggest you watch the news, figure out there’re bigger things going on then a joke about Sarah Palin and her chromosome deficient offspring, and chill out.

And your view on humor is not everyone’s view on humor, so saying that repeating something isn’t funny is not a fact, it’s your opinion.

Mikelbf2000, you
mentioned George Carlin as funny but you
dislike Family Guy??? What the…. I don’t understand you at all. Okay, you don’t like fart jokes, so what? Move on please.

@judochop George Carlin’s humor was never done in spite. He never was never a self rightious, arrogant douche like Seth Mcfarlane. You understand me because you don’t want to. You dont want to look at something an “I see your point but I dont feel the same way you do”. You act like there is something wrong with me for criticizing a show. I’m just criticizing not preaching, not being the morality police, Just saying that it wasn’t right to attack a specific 2 year old with down syndrome. I never said I didn’t like fart jokes, I used peters farting as an example of a overly done gag.

@eponymoushipster Only a Family Guy fanatic would find repeating something funny. About watching the news. This isnt about news. This is about Family Guy.

@Mikelbf2000 generalization breeds ignorance. Many non-family guy fans enjoy a repetitive joke once in a while (Ever heard of the “Knights who say Nee”?).

Also… no one picked on a specific 2 year old, the character in question was a teen girl who made allusion to her mother being ex-governor of Alaska. No one specifically attacked Sarah Palin’s kid or made mention of her name. People assumed that a fictional character in a fictional setting was referring to a real person. No one made specific mention of that woman, but everyone was quick to make the jump. Fantastic job by Seth McFarlane in exploiting people’s knee-jerk reactionist nature and creating a little free publicity for himself and his show.

alright, Some of you see my point some of you don’t. So be it. I never thought criticizing a silly show would bring so many people on the defensive. I don’t have to like or agree with everything pop culture brings to the table. It’s like you all think I am campaigning against the show. I am not. They have the right to put what they want on their show but I have the right to voice my displeasure. I’m not breeding ignorance. Overrated TV shows however do. People simply cannot take criticism against things they like. I have to deal with it. Family Guy fans can deal with it too.

That said lets just agree to disagree and move on. I dont feel like going in circles over a show.