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What's your position on wolves in Yellowstone?

Asked by vanausdr (146points) March 14th, 2010

There is such a huge, and yet often unappreciated, conflict about the management of wolves, and perhaps wildlife in general, in the Northern United States. I wonder if the wolf has any chance of maintaining a permanent place in this country. Do Americans really want them? Why do we need them?

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jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities's avatar

They don’t have to be wanted. They are a natural species that has the right to live just as any other species (including humans) do.

MissAnthrope's avatar

First of all, it is the fault of humans and our fear of carnivores that caused the near-eradication of wolves in this country. This is shameful. Secondly, it is incredibly important to the health of ecosystems that we allow top-level predators to exist in the U.S. The deer population explosion experienced pretty much everywhere could be taken care of by re-introducing these predators.

Captain_Fantasy's avatar

Wolves are part of the local ecosystem and their population needs to remain so that the balance of nature is not upset.
Killing off the wolf population is no more an options than killing off the shark population.
Such an action would surely have an adverse affect on humans at some point.

dpworkin's avatar

Wolves belong there more than humans do.

Pretty_Lilly's avatar

I usually ignore them when they whistle at me !!

syz's avatar

The American craving for cheap beef has f*cked up the environment quite enough.

faye's avatar

Without a wolf population, the animals they eat would overrun the area and plant life would be eaten to extinction. Wolves are an essential part of the ecosystem.

Captain_Fantasy's avatar

Now that it is legal to carry guns at state parks, I wonder how many jackasses are going to pick off a wild animal claiming self defense. Oh there will be a couple, don’t doubt that for a moment.

mrrich724's avatar

I think we should leave them alone, or use some of our “smarts” or money, or technology to learn to live with the creatures.

Once I was on a friends boat in a no wake zone in Florida. He was going too fast, and I told him to slow down because the reason that particular zone was their was to protect manitees from getting cut up.

His dumb ass response was, “well if they don’t want to get hit, they shouldn’t be here.”

I was like, “Well where the fuck do you think they should be instead of in YOUR ocean?”

Of course, there was no response. I think it goes beyond just the wolves.

Humanity has more logic and more critical thinking skills, so why can we not take more responsibility when we invade the places these animals have been for thousands of years and rather than plowing through them, live with them?

Alligators in Fl is another example. Wild alligators are not going to attack people. Alligators who have been forced to change due to peoples’ actions in that area cause alligators to attack.

Why is a tiger in the zoo euthanized for attacking an asshole that taunts it? We killed a tiger for being a damned tiger!

I feel like if we can make computer chips out of sand, and we can invent incredible things like race cars, iPads, MacBooks, vaccines, etc, I refuse to believe that we can’t find ways of living with the creatures that probably have more right to this land than us.

Captain_Fantasy's avatar

Also those assholes who taunted the tiger got a HUGE payout from the city, just short of $1,000,000
They’ve a long list of petty crimes to both their names. One of those clowns recently got a felony DUI for being both drunk and high on meth. The other was arrested last year for stealing a PS3 controller from the wal mart.
Model citizens.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

My position vis a vis wolves in Yellowstone, if I were in Yellowstone, would probably be ahead of a pack of them (I would hope) as they chased me down to rip out my throat. And at that point my position would probably be “beneath them”.

bea2345's avatar

This is not really on point, but we should treat wild life with more respect. In connection with the tiger story – @Captain_Fantasy – some years ago I read about two women who sued the Yellowstone Park authorities after an animal attack – I think it was a wildcat, but am not sure. They lost the case, in spite of serious injuries, because they had camped in a bad location, against the advice of those same authorities. My husband has told me that once, driving to work in Liberia, he encountered an elephant standing in the roadway. He stopped, reversed until he was out of the sight of the animal, and simply waited. Eventually the creature departed, leaving the road clear.

There are good reasons why zoo authorities tell visitors, DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS. Two teenagers were chased out of the deer enclosure in the Emperor Valley Zoo, Port of Spain, by an angry and upset stag. They were trespassing (and they probably got their ideas about deer from Walt Disney).

HungryGuy's avatar

I’ve never taken a position on a wolf in Yellowstone. I think I’d fall off…

Your_Majesty's avatar

Ever since wolves disappeared from US coyote and grizzly bear has replaced wolves position in nature. I think even if wolves absent from nature our nature will still as same as it used to be and will keep balancing. So there’s no big impact on nature itself. People and government will only care about something that its existence is in danger,so I think if wolves about to disappear again in US they will become more aware and this can also become ‘shock therapy’ for people and government so they won’t repeat the same thing. Just agree to defend wolves existence and right in nature won’t help people and government to open their mind.

Cruiser's avatar

Wolves munch on people, livestock and pets. America was built from the ground up with people, livestock and pets. Anything that compromises people, livestock and pets gets “managed”!

Coloma's avatar

I agree. Wolves should be allowed to express their wolfiness and live in the areas and ways nature intended.

I am abig animal lover, but also accepting that sometimes things will be killed. It is the way it is.

I am not thrilled when one of my chickens gets nabbed by a fox or coyote or raccoon, but…it’s the way of nature.

I always laugh at the state flag, the brown bear flag in California. The last was killed off sometime in the early part of the last decade.

The state flag of California should be a BMW now! lololololol

Coloma's avatar

I have a very wily 3 legged coyote around my place, I make sure my geese and chcikens and cat are locked up, inside at night..but..I think he is very cool, a tenacious survivor and I admire that! :-)

Coloma's avatar

Oops..I meant the last brown bear was killed in the learly part of the last CENTURY! hahaha

davidbetterman's avatar

Wolves are fine. It’s the werewolves which concern me.

Draconess25's avatar

@Cruiser Wolves only attack people if they’re threatened or if they’re starving. Humans aren’t natural food for wolves (they’re too full of toxins & stupidity), & most modern humans deserved to be attacked anyways, if not by something much more painful…......

davidbetterman's avatar

Watch out for wolverines at Red Dawn, too…

Coloma's avatar

Reminds of a Gary Larson cartoon I once saw…..lololol

God…THAT GUY had it down, did he not? hahaha

lloydbird's avatar

My position?...
Up a tree and trembling.
But, as luck would have it, with a pocket full of tranquillising Scooby Snacks, to ease my getaway.

HungryGuy's avatar

They’re all gonna die anyway when the super volcano under Yellowstone goes boom. Geologically speaking, it’s due any moment now…

ShiningToast's avatar

Read this month’s National Geographic.

Wolves were hunted to the point of non-existence in Yellowstone, and recently they have been reintroduced.

The wolves have brought back into check the elk population,which decimated the plants and tree saplings in the park. Coyote numbers have also dropped since the wolves have been reintroduced (wolf predation), and as a result small mammal populations have returned to normal (the coyote’s food source). Also, the pronghorn’s numbers have climbed (coyote food source).

There are now 12 beaver colonies in Yellowstone, as opposed to one, since the river banks now actually have vegetation on them, due to the checked elk population.

Wolves don’t bury their food, so the food supply and population of scavengers (bald eagles, golden eagles, ravens, bears) has increased.

Seems to me like the wolves have brought stability to the ecosystem. I say keep them.

Coloma's avatar

I love beavers!

Have had the delight of watching some in the nearby river. :-)

Yep, Larson was a GENIUS…:-)

Coloma's avatar

Hahahaha…THATS THE ONE!
Billy and the Wainrights! hahaha
Thanks davidbetterman..okay…HOW do I do that @ thing…?

wilma's avatar

I’m glad that they are making a comeback. Although I wouldn’t want their population un-naturally protected.
Natural selection is good for a species.
I have heard a wold howl at night.
tingly!

davidbetterman's avatar

@Coloma

Like that!

Type the @ and either click the name you want from the drop down menu below the writing box, or supply the name you wish.

SeventhSense's avatar

Wolves should be respected and protected wherever they naturally exist but reintroducing them into environments that they were eradicated from is simply another attempt by man to manipulate the natural order or compensate for a collective guilt. Protect them in places where they thrive and stop trying to play Mother Nature. The wolves in Yellowstone are perfect example. If the natural order wanted them to be there they would have migrated back without man’s assistance.

YARNLADY's avatar

The eradication of any natural species is not right. Humankind should be managing wildlife, not destroying it.

WolfFang's avatar

Let the wolves run free!! If we can’t coexist then let nature have its way

faye's avatar

I just googled it. You guys have canadian greys. They weren’t allowed to migrate back, were they?

SeventhSense's avatar

I have no problem with Canadian’s migrating south. Mike Meyers, all the folks from Second City Television to name but a few. They’ve certainly enhanced the urban and suburban areas. :)

Coloma's avatar

Just this afternoon, a Coyote snatched my barred rock rooster and I witnessed the nabbing. A miracle…lol

Chicken in his jaws, ran 20 yards and stopped to get a better grip.
My rooster had given up, limply hanging from the Coyotes mouth..then…just as I thought ’ Oh, he’s a goner’ shouted ‘MY CHICK” hahaha….rooster sprang to life in his 11th hour and bolted from coyotes jaws….....one point chicken, minus one coyote!

Tonight one happy rooster in the barn!

Either way…it is what it is.

Coyote is seeking food for his family right now, pups in the den. Spring has sprung!

faye's avatar

@SeventhSense Haha, I mean there was a ban on the wolves.

SeventhSense's avatar

<——An American turning grey.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, they were extinct in Yellowstone from early in the 1900’s. They were reintroduced in 1995 and they’ve changed the face of Yellowstone.

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