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Why are some reasons people are really against health care reform?

Asked by Pandora (32385points) March 21st, 2010

Please do not answer this question with vague answers or racist or ignorant answers that have nothing to do with what I asked.
I say this because I’ve seen similar questions posted that were simply filled with hate mongering answers but none that actually specifically listed actual changes and what they would mean.
I’ve read about what some of the changes would be but not exactly what they would mean for the public.
Please name One action of the bill reform that you object to an give a reasonable answer as to why it won’t work.

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dpworkin's avatar

Follow the money. The insurance companies might have lost a lot of money if we had real health care reform, so they prevented it.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

They are misinformed. They think their money will be taken for it. They’re misinformed that their money is already being wasted.

jaytkay's avatar

For the same reason they supported the Iraq War against the people who attacked us on 9/11.

Because of the $50 blue death pill, because Jesus is our physician, because if you don’t have inalienable constitutional rights from God then what?

Watch this video. They explain themselves. It’s 9 minutes long but worthwhile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilG7PCV448

PandoraBoxx's avatar

No one a common understanding or experience on how the health care system works.

dpworkin's avatar

There has been in place for many, many years a power elite which is highly skilled at getting people to vote and campaign against their own best interests.

Remember when Medicare was Socialized Medicine?

Pandora's avatar

Wow, so far this is exactly what I said not to do. Please read everything I wrote above.
I’m looking for REAL answers to my question.

dpworkin's avatar

These are the real answers. If they are not to your taste, too bad.

jaytkay's avatar

Serious answer: watch the video I linked. Opponents of the bill will tell you what they know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilG7PCV448

Pandora's avatar

@jaykay That was funny as all hell. Especially when the guy asked where did she get her info from. Before she said Fox News I was thinking it. LOL
OMG, I guess you made your point. Nobody knows what they are actually fighting against. They are going on rumors and innuendo but no actual facts.
Point taken, I’m wasting my time like that reporter if I think I will get a clear answer.
@pdworkin When I was younger neither of my parents had insurance. If it wasn’t for medicare I would be dead today. So I don’t see socialize medicine being as bad. And for your info. Both worked (my dad worked 6 days a week and my mom 5) but neither had the education to make a lot of money. Neither of their jobs offered insurance and we survived pay check to pay check.
I can afford my own insurance today but I won’t forget those who can’t get insurance.

dpworkin's avatar

You need to re-read what I said. You misunderstood it completely.

Pandora's avatar

@pdworkin, My appologies. I did misread it.

jazmina88's avatar

People are terrified of change, even if it does better their situation. We do not trust government.

I apologize for my vagueness.reform takes out pre-existing conditions immediately.
Education is key. Most features do not take effect until 2015 or so.

jaytkay's avatar

@jazmina88 People are terrified of change, even if it does better their situation.

Amen. Thank you.

Cruiser's avatar

People don’t like being lied to or manipulated which this whole Health Care Bill process has done from day one. Secondly, people don’t like being ripped off and that is what the insurance companies are doing by wantonly raising policy premiums and do so to cover themselves from over zealous lawsuits and nervous doctors who then order more test and procedures to protect themselves from litigation. Thirdly, people are fed up of being told they can’t do something that they know will help them to get our from under this ominous burden of rising premiums by being able to shop interstate for lower policy premiums. 4th, people have come to realize that our government has failed at Medicare and the Postal system and taking on something as large as the entire health insurance industry is a recipe for total disaster. There is a lot more to lay out here but you should get the idea.

john65pennington's avatar

Mainly, its all about the future of our children and proper heathcare for them. my wife and i will not be effected too much by the change. i seriously have reservations about 20 million illegal immigrants. i suspect, that hidden somewhere in this new law, is coverage for the illegals. i believe this was the main intent in the beginning. 12 million legal Americans do not have healthcare coverage and now they do. but, what about the remaining 20 million people thats been broadcast on tv for the past year? who are these people? the illegals? take it to the bank that these people will be covered somehow, someway by the feds. the illegals are bankrupting the emergency room hospitals because of free heathcare, which is required by the feds. are you beginning to see the light? the feds want the burden of free healthcare to the illeglas taken off of them and given to the legal taxpayers to pick up the tab. ask any ER nurse or worker and they will tell that the illegals are regulars there for treatment and they know the feds have to give it to them. they are not stupid by any means. i hate that America is now faced with this upcoming delimma. the Constitution of The United States does not cover public healthcare for individual people or companies. so, i wonder why the Congress is not abiding by the Constitution and the will of the people? for those of you that honestly need healthcare and legal, i am glad for you. 38 states are poised and ready for lawsuits against the Federal Government. how can the Feds impose this law on Americans, when its not in the Constitution for them to do so? years ago, TennCare failed in the state of Tennessee. TennCare was almost identical to the federal healthcare. fraud was everywhere and it almost bankrupcted my state. this should have been a bad example for the Feds to follow, but no, something else is in the wind. the coming years will be very interesting.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

I work for a health insurance carrier. We support health care reform. How commercial business is conducted is too complex. Each state has different laws, and most commercial business (90%) is done through agents, who are not employed by insurance carriers. At the very least, common levels of coverage across all states. In some states, you can have your dependent children on your plan to age 30, others, age 23. Some states have different definitions of wellness.

Mr_A's avatar

No one on here really knows.
I suggest you do your own research.

Pandora's avatar

@Cruiser, i get it. I just don’t understand how so many people can object to something without knowing the actual details. Plus what we are doing now is failing miserably. Isn’t it better to try something and see if it works than sit on ones rear and say oh well. What can we do? Insurance companies aren’t suffering that much. Its a multi million dollar business. Individuals will crash and burn before their profits do. I don’t think this is your personal view but I hope others will see that insurance companies are only out for themselves.

Pandora's avatar

@Mr_A Already got that. I’ve already read about what some of the health care changes might entail. I figured since some people on here seem to object so strongly, I figured some might actually be able to explain what they were actually objecting too.

john65pennington's avatar

Pandora, please read my answer. john

Pandora's avatar

@john65pennington, You might be right but I still don’t see proof that it is their intent. I’m not so naive as to think that the government will always have my back. But isn’t tossing any attempt out, kind of like throwing the baby out with the bath water. So many people say nay, but none offer a better solution. I like to believe that is why we vote. Not so much because they have to listen to all of us, (Because we would all never agree as to what needs to be done) but rather we hope when they are in office they will do what is best for all of us and that they have the skill and knowledge that many of us don’t have to do it properly. Voting is like a wishing well. Toss enough pennies and your bound to get a few of your wishes if they aren’t ridiculous.

Cruiser's avatar

@Pandora On the same token…I don’t understand how so many people can support something they and their own President hasn’t even read. WTH??

jaytkay's avatar

…i seriously have reservations about 20 million illegal immigrants…

I keep hearing that number. Is that a big talking point on AM radio? Where do people get that number?

dpworkin's avatar

Some teabagger made it up

Pandora's avatar

@jazmina88 I’ve actually listened to what Obama said about some of his proposals and one of the main things he wanted to cover was pre-existing conditions. Insurances already won’t cover them or charge so much that many can’t pay the increase. The only way you will be ok is if your job got an insurance company that will cover pre-existing conditions for their workers. Many insurances will drop you. Some have a clause saying they will not cover any pre-existing conditions if you got the insurance four months after hire from another job that gave you insurance. So if you got fired and it takes you 3 months to get a job and you can’t apply for insurance till you have 3 months on the job, and you have asthma, then they will not cover you or you have to pay through the nose.
When my daughter was working in a job that didn’t offer coverage, we looked for insurances. No one would touch her for less than 500 dollars a month because she had asthma. Some straight out said they wouldn’t cover her. At the time that would’ve meant half of her pay check. It was cheaper for her to pay a doctor 200 dollars every 3 months to get perscriptions for the next 3 months.

Pandora's avatar

@Cruiser, I trust he knows quite a bit about it. If not because he read it, than because I’m sure there have been a few republicans that have complained about every aspect of it. Unless of course they didn’t read it either. In which case maybe this is all just a ruse and there is no point in getting upset about something fictional. LOL

Pandora's avatar

Thank you all for playing. I’ve got to go off to bed now. Tomorrow same place, same bat channel. Continue on. Have a good night. :D

jazmina88's avatar

i have pre-existing conditions, and from what i glimmered from the news, everyone will be able to get cheaper coverage. I had to pay $700 a month for coverage for state insurance for awhile.
@pandora This reform could directly effect your daughter is such a good way immediately with her asthma.Keep the faith. Check out the outcome.

mattbrowne's avatar

Because they don’t understand that health insurance for everyone isn’t socialism. They don’t understand that it’s actually very compatible with free market societies.

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