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NSFW... If you had yourself cloned, would you own it as property, and if so, could you turn it into a personal sex toy?

Asked by RealEyesRealizeRealLies (30960points) April 2nd, 2010

This question is inspired by This question about “Real” Sex Dolls.

For those of you who claim it is a matter of control, then let’s take it to another level and consider the same for cloning. Assume for a moment, as I do believe, that human cloning is possible. Well, if you had yourself cloned, could you change the sex, grow it up locked in a room, keep it starved for the gangly supermod physique, give it a porn star breast implant, and teach it to be your very own personal sex slave?

Why wouldn’t your very own cells be considered as your very own property to do with as you see fit?

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zandrace's avatar

I don’t think I would look good with boobs.

This question is pretty weird haha.

Coloma's avatar

I think some of you have entirely too much time on your hands….this question!!!!

OMG..it’s waay to early to peruse the darkside of the human mind! lolololol

escapedone7's avatar

I’d set her free because to be totally free is my deepest longing.

rahm_sahriv's avatar

I don’t think you can ‘own’ another human being and I would see a clone, if it were possible, as such. I would find the concept of ‘owning’ it disgusting.

Vunessuh's avatar

Wtf. Why exactly would I want to fuck something that looks exactly like me, regardless of whether or not I gave it a penis? Why would I keep my clone locked up or starve her? I agree with @rahm_sahriv that the idea of owning another human being is pretty disgusting.
She would have her freedom. I don’t have the right to own anybody, not even a clone.

Your_Majesty's avatar

If I’m a homosexual,yes.

lloydbird's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies
You may have the makings of an interesting movie there. Go pitch it dude!

kevbo's avatar

I think it’s an interesting question and my unequivocal answer is no. If I had a clone of Scarlett Johanssen circa 2001, then yes.

Hexr's avatar

Errrm no. That’s kind of disturbing actually. Especially the starving and keeping them locked up. That’s some Jeffery Dahmer shit. Hopefully you do not believe this, OP, otherwise you should go for therapy. But I really hope this is just a question. Wanting to “own” people for sexual purposes is not psychologically healthy.

Besides if I want to have sex with myself I can already do that :-P

Fyrius's avatar

Your children are also made of your cells.

poisonedantidote's avatar

i searched all the pictures for “WTF” on google images and found nothing to do this justice.

the reason it can not be considered property is it is self aware.

EDIT: the wtf is in the extra details not the idea its self, i can tell you have been thinking about this lol.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@rahm_sahriv @Vunessuh @Hexr

Sorry to offend. The question addresses the underlying issue of controlling a sex doll, as presented in the previous question that I linked to. You’ll understand my agreement with you in my comments to that Q.

@poisonedantidote “the reason it can not be considered property is it is self aware.”

That also makes a good argument for the existence of free will. Yet, modern genetics can perform cloning on just one body part. With further research, I see no reason that a clone cannot be constructed to appear fully human, albeit without a functioning brain. It could in effect be created for the sole purpose of a living flesh sex doll.

@Fyrius “Your children are also made of your cells.”

Well, my children share my cells, with the combined cells of the mother. I get your point. But my clone would be from me and me alone. Genetics would allow me to make it in a variety of different configurations too.

@lloydbird Thanks, but no thanks.

@Doctor_D “If I’m a homosexual,yes.”

The clone may be altered at the genetic level to be any sexual orientation you desire. You could make a hermaphrodite. I would imagine it could be created utterly deformed with genitalia for hands and eyeballs in the crotch, if so desired.

@jeffgoldblumsprivatefacilities

Agreed. But why exactly? The clone could be created with no capacity for self awareness, custom ordered to be a living breathing, sexual doll. I agree with you completely, but a reason must be given if we are to answer those perverse enough to pursue such a truancy against nature. The fact is that life like human sex dolls are currently being sold legally. Genetics is cloning non aware body parts legally. It’s a short march to creating the ultimate genetic sex toy. Why would this be wrong?

My answer to the other question is applicable here too.
“I just can’t say that this is ok. It’s fucking with peoples minds in ways that should not be entertained.”

“Abandoning reality is fine for a mental escape, for a while. But I fear these dolls would promote addictions of their own just as any drug or alcohol. I fear it that addiction would be expressed in public encounters just as any other addiction. This should not be encouraged as a proper direction for society to pursue.”

talljasperman's avatar

what about yourself.?..could you do this to yourself?...most men already use themselves from time to time (or every time) as a sex toy….you’ll go blind

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

No. I could not clone myself. But I’m not so against cloning body part replacements, as long as no embryonic stem cells are used. And yes, people do masturbate. But that’s not the same as having another body. How would a sex clone without a brain be any different than a life like sex doll? Are people who use sex dolls actually performing a form of masturbation?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

And if science can clone a body, and science has been successful with brain transplants, then is it unethical to clone a brainless body to transplant my brain into?

Fenris's avatar

The problem is that cloning makes an identical twin, not some mystical homonculus, and identical twins don’t own each other. real dolls are just expensive sex toys. TOYS.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies : making a brainless body would involve rewriting the human genome from the ground up after mastering how the genome grows a brain and connects it to the CNS and PNS. Unethical? I’m a complete nominal abolitionist, so as long as you don’t care and have the money, I don’t care. Done for less than a billion dollars and another 25 years of research at least? Prolly not.

Fyrius's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies
Well, would it be okay to do any such thing to your children if you and your wife agree on it? It’s your own genetic and biological material.

But children have a mind of their own, and for that reason they have individual rights that even their parents are not allowed to violate. And frankly I don’t understand what difference between clones and regular children would make clones not deserve those same rights.

If you were to split off some of your own tissue now, and make a clone of it, the clone would start as a foetus. It would be like a monozygotic twin brother who’s some thirty years younger than you.

Fyrius's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies
“I would imagine it could be created utterly deformed with genitalia for hands and eyeballs in the crotch, if so desired.
I think you imagine that wrong.
Making a clone with genital hands and crotch eyes would take some serious reworking of the plumbing in your clone, at least if the eyes are supposed to see and the genitals are supposed to be useful for the sort of thing you use genitals for.
In a normal human body, the optical nerve is a short cable from the eyes to the brain. If you put the eyes in the crotch you’d need to genetically engineer the optical nerves to be like ten times as long and somehow program the genes to reroute them all the way through the chest and through the neck into the brain. Unless you plant the brain in the left foot, of course.

If science will ever become fluent in the language of the genes, it would still be a huge load of work to make it all work out. It would be like editing the Windows XP source code to make it use your RAM as hard drive space and your hard drives as RAM, and you’d have to wait for years to see if what you did worked.

thriftymaid's avatar

No, you would not own your own clone. In the USA you may not own another human being.

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