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Conspiracy meets reality: "Guardians of the Free Republics" serving notice on all 50 governors. Thoughts?

Asked by kevbo (25675points) April 2nd, 2010 from iPhone

So I stumbled on this story yesterday about a (what I would characterize as some variation of a religious tea partyish group) who are (or think they are) attempting to make a populist end run on our corporatocracy through some set of citizen maneuvers for the purpose of restoring constitutional government. I’m fuzzy on their plan, but it involves serving notices on the 50 governors, the military and the Supreme Court. Well, apparently, they’ve actually started doing it! There are two articles in two Nevada papers that talk about the governor’s office being locked down as a precaution. See here and here.

What I find I interesting about the second article is that it characterizes the group as “anarchist” when their own statements on their Web site plainly contradict that assertion.

There’s some inside audio of these people talking about there plan that sounds fairly far out there, but I guess they’re taking it seriously.

So whaddya think about this one? I guess on one level that it doesn’t mean much that a group sends letters to governors, but it’s been interesting to me to hear the audio first and then see the news stories a day or two later.

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aprilsimnel's avatar

Feh, never mind them. What about the shadow RNC? I think the more conservative elements of the Republican Party are indeed going to make an end-run and set up an ultra-conservative party, leaving the original party to whomever wants to stay there. I can almost believe that the plan was to put an incompetent black guy like Michael Steele in to make their new sect more appealing to their target market, the disaffected whites.

These guys you’re talking about are a loony-tune distraction, at best.

kevbo's avatar

More news links. I guess this is getting broader coverage.

kevbo's avatar

sorry… their plan

@aprilsimnel, yeah that story is a doozie. It’s a little weird to have that and the whole Catholic Church meltdown happening at the same time. I think the outrage for that story is wholly justified, though, since the RNC courts true believers. If I was one of those family values people, I’d be crushed.

Fenris's avatar

Eh. The Game of Houses never ends and never changes. If not someone better at getting to the top, then these people will be climbing the dagger-lined heights. Machiavelli was right.

phillis's avatar

What I think is that people are finally sick to death of thier corrupt goverment enough to go clean out Sodom and Gomorra. Poor Lot wouldn’t find a single soul to save, no matter how much he bargained with God. I’m not about hurting, or threatening to hurt people, and I don’t bomb abortion clinics. But this IS the stuff The United States was built upon, lest we forget it. It’s how we came to be in the first place. It’s ugly, but it clears the way for progress. Whatever it takes (as long as it is done with honor) for a complete changing of the guards, I am all for it.

kevbo's avatar

@Fenris, is that from The Prince or something else? It’s relevant to my interests and probably something I’d like to read up on. Thanks!

Siren's avatar

I think it’s just a lot of Republican money being spent on publicity and trying to gain more popularity for the next election. They obviously don’t care what the general public thinks, but certainly want them to believe it (as has been their MO in the past).

Go have a cup of tea with them.

Fenris's avatar

They talk about divine rights so they lose all credibility in my eyes. I’m usually warm to reformers, but it sounds like they don’t want a just, post-Benthamist democracy, they want to go to some caricature of Rand’s fuck-the-world-everyone-for-themselves wild west. Military enforcement of a pro-life agenda? I understand humanity’s natural tendency toward doublethink will lead to some degree of inherent hypocrisy, but this is crossing a football field in that category, not just a line.

That being said, some of their anti-conglomerate, anti Government, Inc. stuff, I can get behind.

And I got the name Game of Houses from Wheel of Time. The city of Cairhein or something like that is a wonderful example of Machiavelli’s picture of a never-ending, ever-shifting free-for-all between individuals, associations, and various other groupings for some ephemeral semblance of control and power.

As for the works Machiavelli printed his ideas in, I don’t know. I understand diagrams and instructions. I’m autistic, so I read something like Atlas Shrugged and come away with nothing more than a ” what an odd book”. I had to read the cliff-notes for Atlas shrugged and a book on the constructed meaning of Machiavelli’s message in order to get it.

CaptainHarley's avatar

@Fenris

I tend to agree. They seem to have adopted a barrelful of legalese to promote what sounds like a rather strange agenda. It has some merit because it heads in the right direction, but with a great deal of “quantum strangeness” attached. : )

Fenris's avatar

I found the books I read to form this sort of image – ISBN13:9780066620107, ISBN13:9780312263560, and a small paperback on how Nietzsche’s vill-zur-macht extended all the way into the fundaments of physics that I can’t seem to find for the life of me.

kevbo's avatar

@Fenris, that’s interesting. I never thought about how perceptions of text would be different for people with autism. If you have a minute, PM me with how that works. Thanks!

UScitizen's avatar

@phillis TY for your insight. I appreciate your patriotism. It is time to move toward a more libertarian government. And yes, this can, shall, and must be accomplished in a non-violent manner.

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