Does biology force men to seek having sex with many women?

Only when they get caught…like Tiger Woods… but then I suffered all though my teenage years because I had no sex till college…and even that just made it worse

Is biology capable of “forcing” people to do anything? I don’t know.

An abundance of evidence certainly shows that biology inclines some men to seek sex with many women.

Basically, yes.

“How could you possibly cheat on me!?”

“I’m sorry dear, my biology forced me to. I had no choice.”

“I’m leaving!!!”

It sounds like a good excuse ~, but biology encourages them to procreate, more so than women. Both sexes are naturally inclined to seek out a partner, but the balance isn’t equal.

Fact from fiction, truth from diction. That is a big load of hog wash. Men are not gravitated to women like Toms in heat after a queen. If we were that much like the animals or aligned with evolution we would also be disposed to run rough shod over the weak and dominate them; might would make right. And even if that were true that would not be a blanket excuse for men to go out and cheat their asses off because they do have a functioning Gray matter and can use it to simply be loyal to whom they are with, the same way they learn to share, not punch out those who piss them off or take anything they want even if they know it is not theirs

force?

Many researchers would agree that there is a biological reason for men to have a larger sex drive than women: for maximum offspring productivity levels, a man should go out and impregnate as many women as possible; a woman just needs to get pregnant once and she’s likely out for a couple of years.

‘Force’ is far too strong a word though. We are also biologically inclined to finish everything on our plate apparently, which is a contributing factor to obesity. Just because there’s a little bit of influence from the way our brains have evolved, doesn’t mean that we’re still stuck in pre-modern societies, and just because particular behaviours can be traced back to our roots as a species doesn’t mean that they’re worth keeping.

Well, I guess the word “Force” was not really appropriate, what I really meant is whether there is a tendency to seek/imagine/fantasize about sex with other women while being in a relationship with one woman, and should it be referred as “normal thing about being a functioning male” or “a sign of a problem in a relationship”. I understand that at the end will he cheat it or not really decided by his brain and not the other part, but let’s limit it for a sake of discussion only to what happens within his head, and not the actual activities.

Great question, and yes, it is true, and yes, we suffer. Except those of who have extra marital affairs of course. These people only suffer if and when the wife finds out…

men don’t suffer. if you are in love with someone, that is more overall rewarding than fucking someone.

sometimes all people will be sexually distracted, but if it is a constant reoccurring thing then there is a problem

Well, I’ve never felt forced to have sex with multiple women…. sigh.
I suspect this is an argument supported by those who have little discipline, & little regard for the feelings of others. Essentially, selfish people.

The latest research seems to show that women have equally strong evolutionary reasons to engage in extra-pair copulations, and may indeed do so as often as men, but women in our species (as it is with many, many other species of birds and mammals) are discriminant maters, and choose more carefully. The difference seems to be that men are less discriminant as to whom they will take as an EPC partner. Neither men nor women are “forced” to do anything, and many people live their entire lives with one sexual partner.

Nah that’ll be their pimps,if male prostitutes have them that is.

@Hypocrisy_Central
”If we were that much like the animals or aligned with evolution we would also be disposed to run rough shod over the weak and dominate them; might would make right.”
If you took a quick look at Human history, that is precisely what happened.

Biological evolution brought us to a certain point, but when humans evolved to the point where fewer people died before having children it ceased to have quite the same potency. For biological evolution to be effective, defects must result in the death of an organism before they have a chance to mate.

During the last 50–100,000 years, evolution of humans has been on a cognitive level. Sure, our distant ancestors had biological reasons to copulate as often as possible, but we gain greater advantage through our intellectual advancement. It is no longer necessary, or particularly advantageous, for a man to sleep with multiple women, and so that desire has become muted in favour of our new found need for the intellectual fulfilment of a good relationship. We now value loyalty over pure production.

This argument is a falsehood, used by bigamists who are insecure with their personal want for multiple partners, and so extrapolate their ideas to the general population.

@FireMadeFlesh
”and so that desire has become muted in favour of our new found need for the intellectual fulfilment of a good relationship.”
Not true. You can not simply shut off instincts like a switch.
That it is not true can easily be verified by looking at how many people, from all societal levels, cheat on their partners.
You can say that our culture does not favour having multiple partners, but our biological instincts are still there and running strong.
It will take at least another million years to breed these instincts out of the human species.

No. There are two male evolutionary strategies for passing on their genes.

1) Have sex with as many healthy women as possible being always on the move.

2) Have sex with one healthy woman and make sure that as many children as possible from this relationship grow up to have sex themselves.

Only few men are implementing strategy 1. Monogamy is far more successful. The biology of the hormones oxytocin and vasopressin support monogamy.

Force? No. Create a biological tendency? Sure. But since we pride ourselves on being intelligent beings, it should be simple enough to overcome our biology, right?

@FireMadeFlesh On the contrary, human evolution has been speeding up under pressure from cultural change, and is now proceeding at a more rapid pace. Source

@ragingloli I never said instincts could be shut off by a switch, just that the need of modern humans for intellectual fulfilment has come to be more dominant than our need for multiple partners. That is why cheating is more likely in people who are not satisfied with their relationship on a cognitive level.

@dpworkin Your reference is interesting, but it refers to evolution over the last 10–20,000 years. I realise that this is within the time frame I mentioned, but would it have such an effect in the last 200–300 years? It has only been extremely recently that the majority of the population has had adequate access to medical services etc. Maybe we are evolving towards what I said, but are only just starting out on that track.

How they manage to overcome their biological instincts?

It is called being civilized.

I think it’s a crock of shit cooked up by the people who handle Tiger Woods. Do you know how many golf balls that philandering asshole sells?

When I was younger I couldn’t keep it in my pants !! :-/
But as you get older & meet someone you want to start a serious relationship with things tend to calm down somewhat, I was always told men are programmed to eye women up ( not all men ) & try it on as often as possible but again as I got older & wiser I realised I wasn’t one of the Macho bulls *hitters who had to clown around & make an arse of myself to attract the women.. Some guys never get past this (grow up) & remain Neanderthals all their lives, it’s really down to choice I’d say…….. :-/

Forced? My ass. Suffer? Spare me.
This has got to be the lamest thing I’ve heard yet. I hope your several sources aren’t seriously using this as a come-on line.

No, biology doesn’t force anyone to have sex and anyone that tells you otherwise is making excuses for behavior that shouldn’t be excused if they’re in a monogamous relationship – you want to have sex with many women? Go ahead but let your partner have sex with many men or women or whatever, get it?

As already said, forced is too strong a word. Would I like to have sex with as many attractive women as possible? Hells yes! But like @Simone de Beauvoir said, I would have to be OK with extending the same courtesy to my wife. And? Nah, I think I’ll pass.

But aren’t women biologically programmed to desire more men as they age? Say, approaching their 40’s and beyond?

This is really all about whether or not you want to place a higher value on biology than necessary – we’re not only about our biology and you either choose to evolve (pun intended) or not.

If you substitute the word “force” to “encourages” the question is better and the answer is yes, particularly when one is attractive to the opposite sex and opportunities are frequent.

I love to be forced to have sex with many women… At the same time. :-)

We have also evolved an advanced brain, which should keep control over the primal urges. Civilized and respectful behaviour is the sign of an advanced people.

@ChazMaz Lol.Would be nice.Then go home and tell the wife, “Babe. Seriously, I could not stop them. They were like savages. Treating me like a piece of meat. The nerve of them. But what could I do? They outnumbered me.”

At an early age when small tribes were relatively isolate the evolutionary paradigm was ‘many partners’ for men, and ‘one partner’ for women. The result was that men competed for women, and tribal structure was relatively stable. Now that tribes are much larger, interrelated, and fluid, the new evolutionary paradigm is ‘one partner’ for both genders. This encourages smaller, more stable family units. The old paradigm is still encoded in the y chromasome, and causes a lot of problems for men. But as generations pass, that influence weakens.

Also, I am just bullshitting. I have no idea.

@stump Yeah, you had me until you said ‘old paradigm is still encoded in the y chromosome’.

@Hypocrisy_Central WOW LOL

Yes. But since we are not animals in that sense of the word men need to curb that desire.

Biology does put the heat in our loins. I don’t think it is gender specific. There are many parts of our animal nature that conflict with the civilized world. We have to learn to be smart about it. Sew those wild oats first though.

@evandad I think it’s gender-specific, only because in the wild the woman gets pretty incapacitated during pregnancy for for a few years after, and she would be more inclined to find one man who will take care of her and the children. The men don’t get incapacitated. They have to be FORCED into incapacitation! LOL!

i think this is true at the most primitive level. i personally do not ever feel the need to spread my genes – i wonder why? However, i do have an interest in watching my wife have sex with other men and some research suggests this to be partly an instinctual competition that I initiate to super charge my mating abilities. Where i absolutely love and admire beautiful female specimens – i really do – its simply that – pure admiration – i never think of fucking them. Maybe every once in a very blue moon but i cant think of any instances. Thank god i dont lust after them – with my personality – if i think it i do it so id be in some serious trouble.

@little8632g “Where i absolutely love and admire beautiful female specimens ” – ah, charmed, I’m sure.

Ok a lot of speculation on this but the truth is we are not that far off from our animal counterparts women are inclined to seek multiple partners but studies show they are attracted to the more dominant males which means the ones that will produce better offspring, this means better looking stronger bigger more dominant men is what they are looking for. Now as men do the same they are more wired if you will to “breed” and produce more offspring to continue their gene line, look at most animal societies and there are many females with the most dominant male and dominance determines who breeds although religion and other factors have taken humans away from this behavior it is still in our genetic disposition to follow these lines this is why everyone is more attracted to someone who is better looking male or female women are the “choosers” of society and choose the more dominant male they can breed with as men will breed with mainly whoever chooses to breed with them. We are not as far off from animals as people like to think

” If yes, how they manage to overcome their biological instincts while having relationship with one woman? Do they suffer? ”

You are confusing an ultimate evolutionary behavior with the proximate behavior of humans.

What is our drive at the genetic level can be ameliorated at the social interaction level by societal and cognitive processes.

We have an evolutionary drive to load up on fats and sweets but people control this urge at the proximate level, to a greater or lesser degree. Same with the sexual strategy of men.

Some people resist the urge to load up on fats and sugars.