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Have you heard the saying that truth is in the eye of the beholder?

Asked by KeithWilson (835points) May 3rd, 2010

What does this say about truth and perception? For example: If you believe that there is a troll outside your door, and you do not check to see if there really is, but you still strongly believe that there is, does the troll exist at all? Even if its in your own mind only, does the very act of having the thought or belief give it some amount of truth value, no matter how small or unlikely the chance may be?

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Pretty_Lilly's avatar

No !! I have heard that beauty is in the eye of the beholder !!

Aster's avatar

No, just that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

netgrrl's avatar

“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”

It’s actually paraphrased from a quote by Plato.

Berserker's avatar

I’m guesing it’s a means to say something is subjective to each, kinda like how your mom said you were cool even though everyone at school always teased you.

(You as in general you, not the asker.)

xxii's avatar

No. Truth isn’t subjective.

netgrrl's avatar

Perception is reality. :)

For fun, ever read about Schrodinger’s catödinger’s_cat

Berserker's avatar

@xxii It certainly isn’t, but people certainly act like it is, haha.

Trillian's avatar

Sounds like something a liar would say when caught in a lie.

patticat's avatar

How can it be truth without evidentual fact , Sounds like imagination.

marinelife's avatar

Truth is objective, but can anyone actually perceive the truth? That is the question. When we record the truth of an event, it is through our own paradigm, made up of our beliefs, experiences, perceptions, etc.

KeithWilson's avatar

Here is my point: The imagination itself is a real thing. By imagining something you are creating it, even if it only exists in your mind. The proof of the concept is in the mind of the person imagining it. They can observe it and describe it to a degree that proves that it does exist in thier mind. You might argue that there is no real way of varifying whether or not they are actually imagining it or not, but simply having them describe what they see proves that they are imagining it. If then, they are really imagining it, then it exists in some form whether observable from the outside or not.

Trillian's avatar

It exists in the mind of that person. Until we learn how super string theory can be applied, we cannot create mass from energy. Even then, it remains unclear whether we would be able to give that mass what we know as “life”.

slick44's avatar

@KeithWilson .. no but i gotta go with @Pretty_Lilly on this one.

slick44's avatar

I think they call that paranoia!

xxii's avatar

@Symbeline – Interesting. Can you give me an example of subjective truth?

BoBo1946's avatar

one of my favorite saying…actually, as pointed out in a prior post…it is beauty, but so many things can be “in the eye of the beholder!” for example, someone’s personality can be “in the eyes of the beholder!” everyone sees others differently!

gailcalled's avatar

John Keats ended “Ode on a Grecian Urn” with this:

‘Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.’

It’s unfair to separate these lines from the rest of the Ode, but, still….(“unravish’d bride of quiteness.”)

DominicX's avatar

What if it involves individual preferences? Or do we only use “truth” in the context of objectivity?

Nullo's avatar

The original is, “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”

Truth is objective. Perception is subjective. Your perception of the truth and my perception of truth will probably be different, but the discrepancies do not affect the veracity of the truth.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Truth is subjective according to Kierkegaard, which would be more in keeping with the intent of the misquote in this question. Objective truth is true whether or not you want it to be true. Subjective truth may be true for one person, but not for all people or all situations.

wonderingwhy's avatar

The truth is filtered by our perceptions. I’ve never heard the saying you mentioned but I assume it means something similar. With regards to believing a troll is outside your door… because you believe something does not, in and of itself, make it true for anyone but you.

thriftymaid's avatar

No. The saying is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That’s what I’ve heard anyway.

MacBean's avatar

Read The Things They Carried. It’ll teach you the difference between truth and facts.

Berserker's avatar

@xxii Of course not. That can’t exist, as you said. My point is that people often seem to ’‘depict’’ the truth in the exact same way that one forms a personal opinion.

xxii's avatar

@Symbeline – Yikes, my bad. For some reason, I thought you were saying that truth “certainly isn’t” objective, not subjective. We are in agreement.

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