Do you think it is appropriate for Home Land Security and the President to cut funding to NYC to prevent terrorism?

I agree NYC should get more than most. NY, Los Angeles, DC, Miami, and some others deserve more than an equal share I would say.

I am not sure if I think it is appropriate, because I don’t know what the budget looks like to begin with. Maybe a whole bunch of money was thrown at the city originally, maybe more than they should have received, and there has been some waste that should be cleaned up? Seems we don’t know the whole story..

@JLeslie
Major cities are at the greatest risk. NYC has been targeted and should receive the most funds .I think this is simply common sense.
Cutting funding to NYC is telling us he does not care about us.
I admit I take this personally.
I love Manhattan but the cowards make exploding a bomb and killing hundreds or even thousands too easy. We must have camera’s like they do in London and we need enough Police.

@philosopher I am not, and did not disagree with you about the importance of NYC.

High value targets like NY should get the funding. Maybe a better approach would be to protect our borders better. It used to be on our souther border we had people coming to our country looking for a better life. Now we have armed mexican gangs and drug smugglers coming across. I don’t mind if people come to this country, but it should be done legally.
Where the hell is our Government in all of this?

@JLeslie
I am not upset by your answer.
I just can not comprehend what Obama is thinking. I am disappointed in him once again.
He does not understand much.
I think most people do not comprehend what Manhattan is like.
I wish I could show them a video of what it is like to walk to work from the train or bus as people do.
I wish they could speak with people who fled the Trade Center on 9/11.
I wish people had more empathy for those who lost family on 9/11.
People seem to have forgotten what New Yorkers endured.
Our security is a matter of life and death. The barbarians will be back.

I’m kinda with @JLeslie on this one; I don’t think that you can solve every problem by throwing money at it. Counterterrorism may be one of those at this point.

The President is not cutting homeland security funding for NYC. See here for more.

However, this question and the general reaction to the story illustrates perfectly why it is so hard to cut spending. One person’s “waste” is another person’s “vital project.” Everyone wants someone else to take the cut.

I don’t know the figures and percentages of the spread of federal funds for this purpose. However, I think the federal funds should be spread pretty evenly based on population with some increase for probability. Each city should be basically prepared to protect itself and respond to a threat or act of terrorism. When a city allows itself to become enormous it must accept the bulk of responsibility for its enormous self.

One thing to consider is what the funding was, um, funding. Funds get cut all the time because projections cover projects that never see the light of day and because funds are prepared for installation, training, and roll-out well in advance. When those things end funding can be heavily slashed but nothing is actually lost. Rather funding is reduced to match actual projected expenditure based on the current environment.

They plan to cut NYC funnding as reported one CBS see link.http://www.newsrunner.com/display-article/?eUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fchattahbox.com%2Fus%2F2010%2F05%2F13%2Fnew-york-in-uproar-over-dhs-cuts-in-anti-terrorism-funds%2F&eSrc=ChattahBox&eTitle=New+York+in+Uproar+Over+DHS+Cuts+in+Anti-Terrorism+Funds

@philosopher I just felt like we need more information, rather than going on whatever the media is saying. I am in NYC all of the time. My sister lived downtown on 9/11. She called me freaked out that morning. She was an at home nurse at the time, and for the next few days she called me twice a day crying, exhausted, carrying everything she needs to carry for her visits, walking on foot all over downtown and midtown. Nurses who lived in Jersey, and even nurses who lived in the city called in sick. So her caseload was even higher than usual, but did not know how she could not show up to sick people waiting for care, many elderly. She was not able to take public transportation for the most part, and being carded constantly to move through lower Manhattan. A coworker of mine lost a brother that day. Believe me I understand the impact of terrorism on the city.

I might remind you that there have been bombers and planned terrorism schemes that were foiled in Miami and cities in California, and in NYC for that matter in the last few years in front of synogogues.

”... cuts in New York’s anti-terrorism funding to offset an increase in funds due to the Recovery Act and transit security grants.”

“DHS officials estimated that New York would receive $47 million more in funding than last year.”

“The Recovery Act appropriated $300 million for Port and Transit Security Grant Programs, more than $100 million of which went to the New York City area. In FY 2010 Congress subsequently appropriated fewer dollars for Port and Transit grants as a result of dollars already provided under the Recovery Act.”

That’s from the above link. Sounds like they’re reprograming funds but for now nothing is being cut. Rather NYC may come out ahead if the current projections are met. Most of the rancor likely comes from the instability that happens with reprograming and just wanting what was cut on top of the additional funds and using the recent incident as leverage.

Um…can’t see your link @philosopher. Did you read this on some blog, or was it reported by a reputable source? If you believe all the ridiculous hype / lies the Repubs put out about Obama, I could understand why you’d be disappointed!

This.http://wcbstv.com/topstories/terror.funding.nyc.2.1691563.html
This was reported by CBS today.

(Why aren’t her links turning into links, guys?? )
@philosopher I think maybe you’re not separating your links from the rest of your text….anyway, I’ll go look. Thanks.

I see….as those above said, there is this, from the White House included in the article:

“But the White House disputed the claims of the three New York lawmakers on Thursday, issuing their own statement to CBS 2.

“The reports are wrong. When all federal funding is totaled, NYC has received a net increase of $47 million for port and transit security over the previous year’s budget, the last signed into law by the Bush Administration.Those who suggest otherwise are not counting the more than $100 million in port and transit security grants for NYC from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

“With that money, the total for NYC will be $245 million, more than $47million than what was allotted by the Bush Administration in the previous year. In fact, one out of every three recovery dollars for transit and port security went to NYC, making them the largest recipient in the country.”

It’s one of those things you’d have to research more thoroughly…..

See Lou Dobbs report.http://loudobbs.com/
The White House can spin things any way they choose.

@philosopher, leave a space before the URL so it will become a clickable link, like this (from your post):

See Lou Dobbs report. http://loudobbs.com/

Even better, you can assign text to a link by enclosing the text within quotes followed by a colon, like this:

“link text”:

Then the URL beginning with http goes immediately after the colon. Try it and see what happens.

@philosopher They’ve been spinning practically since Day 1, and frankly have been doing an appalling job of it overall. Their gross incompetence is an affront to the art of Public Relations.

And Lou Dobbs DOESN’T spin?

@philosopher Well, that argument can go both ways. How do we know that the media isn’t the one doing the spinning? Seriously, until you’ve done your OWN research you can’t accuse one side or the other of lying just because you don’t like them!

@Val123
You don’t live here and no documentation will convince you.
Trying to explain to you is a waste of time.
Chuck Schumer and Peter King rarely agree.
You obviously have no clue what Manhattan is like. You will never comprehend the situation until terrorism effects you.
Sadly you are one those people who only care back what directly affects you.

Well, that’s a big leap to take, @philosopher! It’s not a question of caring. It’s question of questioning how valid the report is, and what the “rest” of the story is. Could it possibly be that the media put a spin on it, left some important information out, just to get people all fired up? That’s what the media does, especially in America, in case you’ve forgotten.

And further, of course documentation (valid documentation, not opinions/blogs) would convince me.

@Dr_Dredd Due to the nature of the relationship between perception and reality, everybody spins a little in the recounting, albeit unintentionally. There are steps that one can take to correct for this spin, such as the peer review.
Organizations who have or want power, institutions who can see a way to advance their own cause via spin, will typically not hesitate to do so. At the least, they won’t bother with the corrective procedures.
Reuters, for instance, is internationally infamous for sometimes running stories with such a heavy spin on them that they border on propaganda.