Russian second names in the 1900s?

You indicate no patronymic, so there is no way to tell what his father’s name would have been. His sister would have been Federova.

Among many things, a Dostoevsky appreciation has taught me this:

If the father’s name is Ivan Pavlovich Verchensky:
—His son’s middle name would be Ivanovich.
—His daughter’s middle name would be Ivanovna.
—His father’s first name was Pavlov.

Also, it seems that in the late 1800s and 1900s, calling someone by their first and patronymic (middle) name was acceptable. Such as calling someone Stepan Trofimovitch. Russians also had (have?) crazy nicknames that are derived from the first name. Stepan might be nicknamed Stepushka, Panushka, etc…

@dpworkin
__ ‘His sister would have been Federova.‘__

His sister’s last name would’ve been Fedorova, but her patronymic is still a mystery.

@jfos

__’—His father’s first name was Pavlov’__

His father’s first name was Pavel. Pavlov is a last name, Pavel is a first name.

@EmoGirlRoflx If his patronymic was Fyodorovich then the father’s name would be Fyodr. And sister would be Fyodorovna.

@gtreyger Eggs Ackley. What did I say that was different? He is Federov, his sister is Federova.

@gtreyger You’re right, it is Pavel.

@dpworkin OP was asking about sister’s second name (patronymic). Your response could’ve led @EmoGirlRoflx to believe that Federova was the patronymic, not the last name. It’s just a little __constructive__ criticism.

So their father’s name would be their last name?
How could I work out their patronymic?

Or have I understood it completely wrong?
Thanks for the answers :)

@EmoGirlRoflx You’d have to know the father’s name. There is no other way.
@gtreyger GAs

I never knew this is how their names were derived…..Very interesting!!!