What do you all think about what obama's pastor?

He’s a bigot and someone who obviously isn’t a fan of the country he lives in.

Wacko! I’m not going to vote for Obama, but I think he is a good man! Obama is a very strong speaker amd I hope he distances himself from Dr. Wright (who, when I Googled him, thought he look a lot like a young Redd Foxx.

honestly I am really f***ing sick of hearing about it over and over as they get anyone they can pull out of their a$$ to interview about their oppinion on the subject!
Its funny how he didn’t notice or have a problem with the pastors opinions for 20+ years untill it suddenly started affecting his campaign.

This is like a Ku Klux Klan member being John McCain’s minister. I wonder how the media would treat McCain if something like this happened?

The difference is: McCain doesn’t have a member of the KKK rooting for him where Obama has OK’ed Dr. Wright’s opinions for 20 yers.

rawpixels~ I think that if it were McCain and a kkk pastor, it would be the end of his political career, i don’t support the kkk but I also don’t support the black panthers, I think that America did some f***ed up things to African Americans back in the day but what race has not been f***ed over by another at one point or another in history, its racist to have a white entertainment tv channel but its okay for there to be a black entertainment channel because ? We owe them?

cheebdragon, I agree 100%. There are many double standards in contemporary America.

His words speak for themselves. Obama has embraced this man for 20 years so what does that say?

he’s a racist separatist hateful man. Obama doesn’t have a chance if he doesn’t separate from the man completely. You are the company that you keep. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

he is the reason racism is still alive here and i think obama believes as he does or at least his wife does

he is no better than the kkk

A white entertainment channel would be redundent. African AMERICANS have been wronged numerous times in the 20th century. cheebdragon obviously doesn’t know what the black panthers stood for and just because other races have been wronged that does not make the atrocities against my people right by any mans account. What he is saying are his views and obviously the views of a major demographic in America. Don’t ignore us. We are still here.

what did they stand for

Self defense. Protection of one’s own community. Social and economic equality. The constiutional right to bear arms. You know… american stuff, inalienable rights?

dont forget the part where whites were the devil

hmmm nope. I can’t forget things that didn’t happen. Turn Bill O’Reilly off for a sec and pay attention to a group of people who have helped mold the country we live in today. The new black panther with radical unfiltered-mouth malik shabazz has made that statement. but coming from a minority and the things that have happened that history books tend to omit. I feel like Mrs. Obama sometimes, for the first time in my adult life I’m proud to be an American.

Google: Black Wallstreet.
...and please don’t say that i’m just a google scholar. I’m from Oklahoma and my grandmother has given me many first hand accounts of the events in question, but for some reason in highschool in my Oklahoma history class the authors seemed to forget this piece of information.

Google: the tuskegee experiments.

I lived it why google it I know all about it read about the ss same views as your bp

I hope all of you watch or read Obama’s speech of a few days ago in response to this question about his former pastor, if you haven’t already:

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3511&id=12333–3021699-9ljC8T&t=546

It is enlightening. Obama is refusing to lower himself to the level of most political banter in this country (including many of the comments above) which see things only in black and white, literally and figuratively. Instead he is saying that life, race, politics, religion, and history are more nuanced and cannot be evaluated based on sound-bytes. What evidence do you have, for instance, cheebdragon, that he “did not have a problem with the pastor’s opinions for 20+ years?” Being a member of a church does not necessarily mean agreeing with every belief its leader espouses, a fact which Obama discusses at length in this speech. And @ mcw, the idea that “Obama doesn’t have a chance if he doesn’t separate from the man completely” is also one Obama tackles head-on, saying he can no more separate from this man completely than disown his white grandmother – which does NOT mean he supports Wrights’ (or his sometimes-racist grandmother’s) political views, but that relationships with other people are based on more than politics.

Obama is throwing down a challenge for the American people to elevate our political discussions above the level of black and white dichotomies and into a more complicated—and I think productive—view of history and human relationships. I am curious if any of the above opinions change after listening to his speech, and in fact if any of you will even listen to the speech at all. Perhaps it is more comfortable/fun/easy to participate in sound-byte creation.

great answer sarahshug, it might not be popular with other readers but you have my props.

Actually, this site has tons of supporters for Senator Obama. No one touched this thread and treated it like the plague because of the torrent of baseless comments made at the beginning, not to mention the poor grammar posed by the OP.

Then he must have been forced to attend
that church! For 20+ years he was forced to attend and forced to be married by that pastor, forced into having his children baptized by him! Right?
What will he be forced to do next???

He was not forced. The pastor did not preach hateful messages every week for twenty years. The pastor spoke from his experience and frustration from living under oppressive society – ie Jim Crow.

Quit spreading lies and bigoted opinions. Look at it with balance.

Yes,look at it with balance rather than making excuses for him. White racists have their reasons and experiences from the past also. Are you looking at them with “balance” or are they just ignorant because they are white?
Let’s stop making and buying into excuses for any bigotry! Let’s work together to promote acceptance, learn from the past and get over it rather than re-living it everyday!

@trainerboy, what you speak of the past is happening in the present.

Yes, I know. I have a friend who’s sister was raped by three black men because she was white. Their lawyer argued it was a crime based on past injustices and how blacks were voicing their anger because of it.
It does go on in many places.

obama began his campaign as the candidate who transended race and he has now become the race candidate, he is a race baiter no different from jesse jackson, al sharpton, or J wright. And isn’t it funny how obama made sure j wright was out of the country so that he wouldn’t have to shut his idiotic mouth for him again . Thank u J wright for paving sen. Mccain’s way to the white house

I went to the same church for ten years despite their stance against homosexuality. That doesn’t make me a fake homosexual.

How many years did you attend after turning 18 or 19 years old? And if you don’t mind me asking, how many of those years were you “out”? I hope that doesnt sound rude to ask.?.

I left because I was asked to leave by the congregation after I came out. I didnt want to but I had to respect their theology so I bowed out gracefully.

I have disagreed with the church’s vehemence against homosexuals for ten years, that would be the more correct statement. I was 12 when I challenged the theology, 18 when I came out and I am now 22. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

i heard a song the other day that i love because it pretty much sums up how i feel about most churches.

pennywise- my god

People on the street
They want to find a god they’ll never know
Organized religeon pulls the blinds
Then they pull the wool
They open up your head
They’re fucking with your mind
Now you can’t see because you’re blind

You try to make amends
But your head’s still spinning round
The church of Jesus Christ
Says it’s time don’t fuck around
You want to go to heaven
You see it isn’t free
Give your money up to me

My God
Is not the one that you wanna see
Your God
Is a mirage, a conspiracy
You pray
For forgivenenss ‘cause you’re sinning
Scared to death
So your money you’ll be giving

Holier than thou
With your one-way morality
I think your shallow faith
Isn’t based in reality
You don’t like how we’re living
We’re sinful and obcene
Why are you judging me?

You’re richer than god
But you’re crying out for more
You’re living like a king
While you steal from the poor
You wanna be forgiven
Get on your knees and pray
Send in your cash and be saved

Better hope you’ve been chosen to be saved
‘Cause your empathy only goes so far today
Pay no mind to those in pain
They just want the souls that are willing to pay their way
Your god’s not for me