Is there a specific word for women who have given birth through immaculate conception?
Where you could point to all the women (fictional, mythical or otherwise) who have been said to have given birth through immaculate conception and say “these women are all blank”?
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Are you asking about parthenogenesis?
The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary having been born free of sin, even though both her parents were human, as a special dispensation from God, as it were. That is, if you believe that bit of dogma. Of her being the mother of Jesus, that event is The Virginal Conception, which would then be, as @dpworkin states, a form of parthenogenesis.
Cuz I’m wonky like that, even over a story.
House did an episode on that. But, he made up the diagnosis for that particular patient, the patient did not become pregnant through immaculate conception, but we learn what parthenogenesis is, if you had never heard of it before the show.
Isn’t Parthenogenesis only supposed to lead to female offspring though (since there is no Y chromosome attained from the male sperm)?
@Seaofclouds Just the opposite. The female has XY, so if she wants to create a being of XX, I guess she can. If a man created a being out of himself, you could perhaps argue that it would have to be male, because there is no ‘Y’. but, besides, it’s mythical. Anything can happen in fiction. This is like watching ‘Sponge Bob’ put a fire out and saying, ‘But they can’t have a fire, they live underwater.’ and your 6 year old looks at you and says, ‘Mom, he’s a talking sponge.’
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Yes, we call them frauds.
I remember reading about some ridiculously convoluted story about a virgin girl who got pregnant, after performing oral sex and being shot. When the MD’s in the emergency room were rinsing out the body cavity, they inadvertently caused some of the sperm to travel to her ovaries.
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Ok, I just found the article, I forgot the best part, SHE DIDN’T HAVE A VAGINA.
They are virgins to the procreation…but I have to say personally there is NOTHING virgin to naturally birthing a child ! Nothing went in the canal in a virgin birth but the kiddo certainly came out ! SO I think virgin is a one way term. But it is the only one we have.
@cazzie All human female eggs are x, so all offspring would be X, which means all offspring are girls. If we could combine the genetic material of two eggs, theoritically we could have a race of women with no need for men or sperm at all. Like Amazon island, I never understood why Wonder Woman left.
@MaryW This is one of the problems I have with the virgin birth, I find it disgusting and physically abusive that God would require a young woman to birth a baby when she is a virgin.
I read something completely wrong. And AGAIN…. ‘He’s a talking sponge.’
The XX / XY chromosome thing always baffled me. It’s based on the shape, right? So… who’s to say that the XX isn’t the more complete version… saying that perhaps the Y in the XY male is simply missing one of the downstrokes, to make another X… see what I mean? So, it’s not XY, but X and incomplete X. complete silliness. But I didn’t bring up the topic of immaculate conception.
@cazzie No no, you are confusing things. It is kind of true that the Y chromosone is missing some stuff, it is shorter. That is why certain genetic things express itself more often in men, like being color blind, I won’t bore you with the explanation, unless you want me too. But, the introduction of the Y chromosone causes changes in utero, most specifically the release of testosterone several weeks into gestation so the baby becomes a boy.
What happens is during meiosis (the process for sexual reproduction at the cellular level) the DNA strands separate, and for women (mommy) they separate into two x’s (because women only have X, as we said they are XX), each “half” strand of genetic material is in an egg. Men produce sperm and their half strands are either x’s or y’s, because they themselves are XY. Each baby is one half strand of genetic material from the mom and a half strand of genetic material from the dad. That is kind of basic. Not sure if it helps, and not sure if I explained it well.
There is a reason why sexual reproduction is the world’s most used method. Granted, many species still perform asexual reproduction. Even some sexual species use it, but only as a fallback method when no males are available.
The reason is that sexual reproduction gives us greater diversity in the genepool, more options to select against and for and thus a faster rate of adaption to the environment, faster evolution and thus faster improvement of a population’s survivability. Plus it is really advantagious to have individuals in a species who can provide you and your offspring with protection, assistance in raising your offspring and food, while not having to provide the same to his own little spawn.
@cazzie The Y chromosome is considered to be a X missing half a leg. Which is why men are the most common genetic mutation (albeit, one our species couldn’t survive without).
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But the question has already been answered.
In the first reply, in fact.
@Fyrius No it hasn’t. The first response gave the name of the phenomenon, but not what the woman who has it is called.
@papayalily Interesting, I did not know there is a word. Have you heard it before and don’t remember it? Or, are you wondering if there is a word for those women? I think with Mary and the baby Jesus it would not be believed that she had a baby by parthenogenesis. maybe I am overthinking, but Jesus is seen as the son of God, I don’t think the Christians get into a scientific explanation for it, it’s just a miracle, not really anything to do with the woman I think.
That’s the Neuter Plural. We’re looking for the Feminine Singular
Well, a female Christian who had a baby by immaculate conception would be a “parthenogentile”, but what would a Jewish or Muslim woman be called?
@janbb Parthenojew? Or, Mary? Not sure about the Muslim girl.
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