Should the general offer his resignation?
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June 23rd, 2010
General McChrystal, CC in Afghanistan, was disrespectful towards the Commander in Chief, President Obama in a RS article. I read the article, and I happen to agree/sympathize with the general 100%. Plus, McChrystal is the black ops of all black ops guys in the Middle East, and diplomacy is not his strong suit. But I was in the military, and I know that he has been insubordinate. I think he should resign (too bad for us). What do you think?
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He’s at career’s end anyway, mandatory retirement is close. Better to retire than get canned. Write a book and get on the speaking circuit. Obama is a rank amateur and he’s not listening to his top military people; he’s playing for appearances, not effectiveness. I served three tours in the ‘Stan and I agree wholeheartedly with the General. An officer’s only option in his position is retire, then speak your mind.
He ought to resign unapologetically,and run against him in the next election .
He has offered his resignation…problem is who to replace him with. The Afgan war is in serious trouble and there doesn’t appear to be a solid candidate who has the moxy to get the job done.
Comon…
Unlike Obama, he has to make decision every day that will either save lives or kill Americans.
The man spends every day in the middle of a shit storm.
Obama is just being a pussy. Lets stick him in Afghanistan for a few months and see how he comes out of it. The General, as gruff as he might come off, should be understood for what he does and how he HAS to do it.
That is one person I want to speak his mind. Being in the position he is in.
He should wait until his meeting with the President, but be prepared to offer his resignation. He may not have to. He may be forced to resign. He could lose rank.
I think Big O is going to chew his ass off, but any decision about whether he should go ought to be based on the situation in Afghanistan. I haven’t seen much out of there that inspires confidence. If another commander can get better results militarily, then McChrystal should go, but not for dissing the Prez in Rolling Stone.
I was just about to ask about this on Fluther.
So… Obama is allowed to fire him for that? I haven’t read the Rolling Stones article but the description of the entire thing doesn’t sound like grounds for firing? I was reading this, btw: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100623/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_mcchrystal
Also, it kind of seems unwise to actually fire him. While talking against your president’s actions seems unwise, it certainly doesn’t seem “not allowed”.
The military, for a host of reasons they deem valid, does not believe free speech is appropriate. By that standard, he has to go. Not only that, but the rest of his team who believe as he believes need to go. None of them can effectively carry out a policy they don’t believe in.
I am sure they will find other people who are familiar enough with the ground situation to carry out the administration’s policy, which may take a very different perspective on “black ops.” McCrystal is clearly the wrong person to carry out the President’s policy, no matter what you think of that policy. He should have been gone a while back. The President should have gotten rid of him when the differences first became apparent instead of trying to make nice. You either believe in what you’re doing or you don’t. The President is coming across as not believing. Not good.
@Iclamae It’s considered insubordination against a superior officer (Commander-in-Chief).
He must resign and he knows it, but it may be beneficial for Obama not to accept his resignation.
Or we could just fire him and get outta Afghanistan…
Latest news reports say that Obama accepted McChrystal’s resignation after concluding that he had been insubordinate.
He should resign just because he’s stupid. Who says those things to a journalist. What an idiot.
He did. It’s over. He has been replaced by General Petraeus.
Obama just relieved him of his command.
I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I think McChrystal deserves commendation for making serious efforts to reduce civilian casualties and limiting air strikes, even against the objections of his troops who would apparently rather shoot a bunch of people if it means less risk for them. I don’t know if his counterinsurgency strategy was the right one, but it always struck me as one of the least possible evils for a pretty much impossible task, and one that has resulted in less death and suffering than in comparable wars. I also think that, while his remarks were uncalled for and unprofessional, it seems petty to fire him just for venting to a Rolling Stone reporter (and the worst remarks were made by his staffers).
On the other hand, McChrystal has a sort of checkered past, both with previous interactions with the press and with his special forces command background. And I can see the argument that the quotes in the RS article, if not insubordination, do reflect a petty, backbiting management/command style that is not suited to the warfare effort.
So I don’t know. My only concern is that the new commander is going to abandon McChrystals stricter ROE on lethal force against civilians, but I think Petraeus probably knows better than that.
@Dr_Dredd Ok, I wasn’t sure how the military stuff works. Thank you.
Enlisted military have been court martialed for dissing their superiors, I could hardly believe the things he said. It sounded very close to treason to me.
Yes, he definitely should have lost his job over that. He must have been frustrated in the extreme to have made comments about the C in C and diplomats as he did.
I just heard on the radio about 30 minutes ago he did indeed resign and another general will be taking over forgot his name maybe I can find it somewhere on google….Anyone know if this is true?
Personally I think he might have went too much in talking about it and his opinion.But I think he knows his shit for a lack of better words, the man still runs 7 miles a day, eats only 1 meal and get around 4–5 hours of sleep….what the hell…..He was special forces probably explains it.
Here is the video—> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/23/general.mcchrystal.obama.apology/index.html
9 years I’m sure can take its toll I can’t imagine the stress and responsibility.He is only human. I still have nothing but respect for the man.
Geneeral Petraeus now holds the job. I wish him luck.
I have the utmost respect for Gen. McChrystal, but he knew better than to shoot his mouth off like that. It almost makes me wonder if he WANTED to be replaced.
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