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KatawaGrey's avatar

Do you have any legitimate arguments against the existence of female on male rape?

Asked by KatawaGrey (21483points) July 1st, 2010

I saw this question and while I did not read the whole thread, I saw a few comments stating that unless it was a case of child molestation adult female and child male there is no such thing as female on male rape. The problem I have with this idea is that I was always taught that rape is violent, unwanted sexual contact.

So, I’m just curious if the collective has any legitimate arguments against a female being able to rape a male.

Hint: Simply saying that men would love for a woman to do that is not a legitimate argument.

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lucillelucillelucille's avatar

Rape is done without consent.A man doesn’t have to have an erection to be raped.
In criminal law, rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person’s consent. Outside of law, the term is often used interchangeably with sexual assault,a closely related (but in most jurisdictions technically distinct) form of assault typically including rape and other forms of non-consensual sexual activity.

KatawaGrey's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille: Very true. I think what often gets overlooked as well is when a man does have an erection whether because he is aroused or because his body is just being odd and a woman hops on board when he does not want to have sex. That has happened to a couple friends of mine. They did nothing to their girlfriends because they didn’t want to hurt them.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@KatawaGrey -That’s too bad.I would’ve told them to get the hell off of me.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

This made me so angry the last time around, I might have to wait for a bit before diving into this q. Ugh.

KatawaGrey's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille: Unfortunately, in American society, that’s the kind of thing that a men could be condemned for. How would you react if you heard a man threw his girlfriend off him when she wanted to have sex? This is also why women are almost never prosecuted for spousal abuse. Often, a man could stop his wife from hitting him but then she could call that spousal abuse. It’s very twisted.

@Simone_De_Beauvoir: Please come back when you’ve cooled down. I would very much like to hear your thoughts.

DominicX's avatar

Nope, because there are none. :)

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@KatawaGrey-I agree,it’s inequitable.

Qingu's avatar

@KatawaGrey, I believe a woman can rape a man, and that women can be stronger then men, but I have a lot of trouble believing what you described could happen if the man (1) didn’t want it and (2) was sober.

KatawaGrey's avatar

@Qingu: And what if the man was afraid of hurting the woman? What if he figured that he had the erection and therefor had to have sex? What there is a more extreme circumstance such as the woman holding a gun or a knife on the man?

A passive rape victim is still a rape victim.

Qingu's avatar

Alright, (3) restrained or otherwise immediately threatened. But I don’t buy the “was afraid of hurting the woman.” Unless they are already in coitus and the man changes his mind, and she won’t get off of him, and even then, I don’t know if I’d call that “rape.”

The other scenario you describe doesn’t strike me as rapeā€”if you don’t want to have sex but agree to do it anyway because you feel guilty, you’re consenting.

KatawaGrey's avatar

@Qingu: I have to get up early so I’m going to respectfully disagree for now and continue this discussion in the morning.

SmashTheState's avatar

I’m asexual, which means I have no sexual attraction to anyone, of any sex, gender, or orientation. But when I’m at a party, there is always at least one woman, usually drunk, who insists on flinging herself into my ample lap and playing with my beard, calling me a “teddy bear,” and refuses to take “no” for an answer. I am usually forced to become quite cross, and have been forced, more than once, to be quite loud and rude to get her to leave off: “Please get off me, I have no interest in fucking you.”

I have been hit on by men, too, of course, but men generally know to back off when they hear a “no.” Women… not so much. The majority of straight women seem to believe that heaven lives in their lap, and all men want nothing more than to dive in and live there for time eternal, amen. Combined with my experiences of being sexually used by a woman in my childhood and early adulthood, this tells me that women can be just as sexually predatorial as any man.

sleepdoc's avatar

OK the last time I saw this question I avoided the whole thing. Let me clear up something about an erection meaning someone is aroused or wants what is happening. Although it is generally true that when a man becomes aroused he becomes erect, becoming erect does not always mean he is aroused. Stimulation of the penis for most normal sexually functioning men will produce an erection. This is a physiologic response. It has virtually nothing to do with their state of mind in this instance. For those of you who don’t believe me, let me just say that I have seen erections develop from stimulation while the person in under anesthesia (not that there was anything inappropriate being done there was just mechanical stimulation as part of the procedure). If a man does not want his penis touched and a woman (for purposes of this question) does it anyway and he obtains an erection, this does not imply consent. Although most men use physical force where rape is concerned, physical force is not the only way to make someone do something they don’t want to.

So in summary, just because a woman produces an erection through unwanted contact, it does not mean the man has given consent for there to be more unwanted contact.

NaturallyMe's avatar

No, not at all. I didn’t even know that this question needed to be asked…ie, how can anyone deny it’s existence? Odd….
(nothing wrong the question just by the way, i just can’t believe anyone can deny it)

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