How do I convince my friend to help pay for something?

You will not get famous off of youtube. You can’t convince him. He thinks your idea doesn’t make business sense. Just because a video is watched on youtube doesn’t mean the creator makes any money from it.

And, quite frankly, after reading your questions posted on Fluther, you lack discernment, which is critical to being successful.

@iwannamakemovies It seems like this is primarily your goal. Why do you think your friends are obligated to underwrite your goal?
It may not be that important to them or they may have other priorities.

Seriously? Do something to put up more money on your own, even if it’s a little bit. Do what you can to progress your project on your own. Have a little something to show. I’m a “trained in classes” sketch writer and improviser, and I learned no one puts up if you don’t put up. Doing more yourself toward your project indicates that you believe in your project.

People buy because the “story” is compelling. That goes for movies, ads, songs, anything. It’s all stories. Do you see what I’m saying? Make your “story” a great story.

Borrow a friends camera and when you get famous you can buy your own camera. I have seen cameras offered for a lot less than that on Craigs List.

Can you rent one?

If it’s this important to you, you’ll find a way. Do it on your own…it’ll be yours and you may succeed. Although, I wouldn’t necessarily judge your film as a success or failure. Finish your project. That will say tons about your character. Maybe others will chomp at the bit to underwrite your next one.

You can’t convince your friend without putting your friendship at risk. If you are really confident you have the talent to ultimately make it pay, talk it through with your firend offering them a share of the proceeds. If they say no, look for someone else willing to invest. Your friend’s money is theirs, after all. It isn’t fair of you to use friendship as a wedge to thry to force them to do something with their money they don’t want to do. It is fair to exc;ude the friend from the project, though, if they are not going to provide their share of the support to get it done.

Your friends worked hard for their money this summer. You did not. While it’s not your fault that you were unable to work, plenty of kids make money cutting grass and doing yard work for neighbors. The boy who cuts grass in my neighborhood is 11 years old. He makes $200 a week by charging $10 a yard for small yards, and $20 a yard for bigger yards. Everyone uses him.

All you seem to have is an idea. Find a way to do it with the materials you have on hand. You mentioned in your post about buying editing software that you didn’t have a computer to put the software on. You’re going to need one high end processor in order to edit the film. What exactly do you have on hand right this very minute, that involves no cost?

My goal isn’t to get famous. My goal is to make good videos. Videos I can be proud of. And if you regularly post good videos, you’ll reach YouTube partnership over time. It’s really not that hard.

@pandoraboxx
my dad is buying the computer after I get the software. So then we have a range if software to choose from. And then we don’t need a big specific computer.

@iwannamakemovies By the way, in answering your direct question, I forgot two important side notes. First, I wish you the best of success in gathering what’s needed and producing some killer videos. Second, when you get your work on YouTube, be sure to post a link to it so we can keep up with the progress from this humble beginning on Fluther. :-)

@YARNLADY One of my friends (that aren’t doing the YouTube channel) have a camera and his grandfather has a Canon EOS, however he is so busy I’m only able to hang out with him once every 3 months. So I want to get my own camera

I doubt you will convince your friend to invest in your idea. You are asking him to invest in something that is not going to produce a return any time soon. In essence, you are asking him to give you money that he won’t get back.

A thing to think about with YouTube is to look at copyright information. I’m not familiar with posting videos on YouTube, but I would check to see if you are basically giving YouTube the right to reproduce anything you post, not to mention the ability of anyone else to steal your idea if it is in fact a good idea. You may want to look into ways to protect your work before posting it on a public site.

Apply for grants if your pal doesn’t work out?

Your friends don’t want to part with their money because you don’t seem to have the judgement skills to see the pitfalls of the project. That’s fine when you have the resources that you need, or are earning your own money to pay for your mistakes.

As for what you need and don’t need, I believe that young people should never be denied the opportunity to make mistakes. Experience is the best teacher. When I said that your questions demonstrate that you lack discernment, I mean that you seem to only see your way and your opinions as being correct. This is part of the callowness of youth.

“Getting your own camera” translates to “use your own money to buy said camera”. He who puts up the cash owns the camera. That does not appear to be you in this situation. Have you thought about asking your grandparents to fund your project? Around here, the Film Society has a youth media program and will lend high school film makers equipment. Can you borrow a camera from a school?

It’s hard to get other people to empty out their pockets. We all have different financial restraints and priorities. If there is a will, there is a way. If you have the passion, find another route.

@seaofclouds YouTube is a key to success to many aspiring film makers and actors, so I’m gonna stick with it.
And after I buy the stuff I need, I’ll still be doing chores to pay him back. Plus YouTube partnership is just like a half job. I could pay him back after 1000 subscribers. That’s not as hard as it would seem to an 11 year old using his dads crappy web cam. (I’m not implying that ur 11)

I’m paying half for the camera. And my grandparents are both dead..

@iwannamakemovies I wasn’t trying to discourage you from using YouTube, I was encouraging you to make sure you protect your work.

And if I borrowed a camera from school it would be a Flip mino, because the teachers think it’s ‘hip’. However I am doing a film class this fall, and for the 2 month durration of the class I would get to take home a $6000 camera. But that’s just 2 months.

Then you must learn delayed gratification. Work on your scripts over the next two months. The greatest predictor of success is the ability to wait.

@PandoraBoxx
I said the film class would be in the fall. Right now I’m in the writing stage, saving up stage, and seeing what I should get.

Sorry if I sound argumental. All week my brother has been picking fights with me for adolescent reasons.

You also have to understand that your friend’s parents may not be too happy with the idea of them handing you money they worked for in order for you to buy yourself a camera for an idea you have. They need the money for your own expenses. I would be extremely angry if my daughter worked all summer and then handed 25% of her earnings to a friend so he could buy a video camera.

I noticed that no one answered the question. HOW can I convince him to help pay?
This isn’t just my channel, it’s gonna be his and my other friend’s too.

The answer is, you cannot. People’s relationship with their money is extremely personal.

He is not as committed to the project as you are.

In order to get him to do it, you would have to convince him that he would get his money back in a timely manner. You would also have to discuss who would actually “own” the camera and how you would divide things if and when you do get the partnership. You also need to make a plan of what will happen if your friendship and this plan don’t last. If you don’t get the partnership, who would be responsible for paying him back his money for the camera? Who would keep the camera if things didn’t work out? Think about all of those things and try again to present the idea to him if you really want to, just don’t be surprised if he still says no.

What @Seaofclouds is suggesting is a partnership agreement. You should have one for something that involves money. Your parents would need to sign it, since minors cannot execute a contract.

@iwannamakemovies Welcome to the real world of business. Because money is involved where one party is (currently) paying more into the project than the other party, therefore this must be approached as a business transaction. This basically summarises the above comments. If, for example, you were to go to a bank, you would need to show the bank you could pay the money and interest back without it being a burden to you. If you couldn’t show that, then their answer would be no, too.

IMHO you would be better going it alone.

The way you propose could give some interesting challenges if, for example, the project makes a zillion dollars and there is an argument and the partnership collapses.

As for the needed software: don’t forget there’s a huge amount of free open source software available. Even governments around the world are starting to use and investigate using open source software. Paid doesn’t necessarily mean better.

I wish you well.

I have been playing with the same idea for a year or so. It would be a lot of work, and potentially quite funny, but won’t make a dime on its own, unless it just leads into other writing work.
I may persue it when I retire, if I think it is still funny then.

find some people who would have the same goal as you and put ur money together once u trust eachother and work to buy it together make sure u split the cost of the equipment equaly and it should work out i think you should see if your friend is really into the idea and if he is tell him you will pay an equal amount he would other wise it wouldnt be fair if he isnt interested just wait and see what comes up latter like maybe youll meet people with same interest and try to save up for the camra this is the best advice i could think up

They still wanna be in the YouTube channel.
I’m paying $1000 and since I found a refurbished camcorder, I’m asking for $100 of help. My other friend is already getting the tripod, memory, and a couple camcorder accesories.