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Bad pit bull dogs or bad pit bull dog owners?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) July 26th, 2010

Are pit bulls taking the heat for poor training by its owner? Do you believe American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier and dogs with similar characteristics of these breeds have an innate thirst for blood? Isn’t the real culprit for aggressive animals not the animal but the owner? Is it really right to ban the animals because of poor training of its owner(s)?

Now that a story broke of a child wondering away from the adults at a gathering and into the garage where there were 3 pit bulls which attacked the child and the child later died from injuries suffered in the attack all sorts of “evil pit bull” attack stories are abound. Why is it people don’t realize it is not that the breed itself is vicious any dog left to its own devices after a disaster etc. will pack up and become vicious, but how the animal is bred?

I knew people who own pit bulls, American Staffordshire Terriers etc even when they had toddlers and young children around, some disable and the dogs were never vicious or even growled at any of the kids even when the grandchild would pull the tail of the dog, or try to climb its back and ride it. Those dogs would not even bark hardly if strangers came to the door making an inside joke of their watchdog abilities. If the dog is trained right why can’t it serve as a trusted family dogs same a pug, beagle, Shiatsu, etc.?

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daytonamisticrip's avatar

It is definitely the owners. i know someone who has a full blood pity. this dog is so sweet he doesn’t nip or mouth. you would never of known he was a previous fighter. he was rescued and trained and now hes so sweet. he loves people but not any other animals

sakura's avatar

I love dogs but we have to remember they are animals most dogs

Soccer129's avatar

Yep! it is so the owners. Pit bulls are like every other dog, they like to be cared for and a lot of attention but once the owner starts treating them poorly things go wrong. That would happen with any animal.

evandad's avatar

I do think the owner is the root of the problem. I think most people who buy those kind of dogs get them because they want to have a dog that threatens people. The stats show that the breed is dangerous. They will attack with the slightest provocation. Over half of all the dogs euthanized in the country are pit bulls. Having one is like keeping a loaded gun on the coffee table. It’s not the dog’s fault. It’s the owner’s fault.

BoBo1946's avatar

Dogs are like our children, with love and discipline….and more love than the discipline, they turned good….Most of the time!

OpryLeigh's avatar

The majority of the time I believe it is the owners but there can be other causes of aggression in dogs (especially ones that have never shown signs of aggression before) like health, for exmple. Regardless of the breed, if a dog turns on humans unexpectedly and “unprovoked” I always recommend that the owners get the dog to the vets for health tests including any brain problems or pain anywhere that the owner was previously unaware of. There may be dogs that are just naturally aggressive (again, regardless of the breed) but I am yet to meet an aggressive dog that was that way for no reason.

marinelife's avatar

I don’t believe in breed banning.

That said, the dogs are bred to fight, which makes them inherently unstable. They should have the breeding altered to remove those characteristics.

People who own pit bulls should have to make special provisions for keeping the dogs from fighting.

naconasong's avatar

I think there is no such thing as a bad dog. There are bad owners. Dogs are born just like babies and they learn to be one way or another. I had a Pit Bull Terrier that was the most loving dog in the world and would never bite anyone no matter what they did to him. He was the sweetest dog and the kids crawled all over him he was very shy. The people who had him before me abused him and he was thin as could be when we found him. We tried to find his owner but never did, we loved him until the day he died and he was wonderful.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

Like @marinelife, I don’t believe in breed banning. What I do believe having come to co own a pit is the following:

Accept and heed these dogs are bred to fight so don’t give them opportunity.
That means if you’re not a fulltime stay at home experienced dog trainer then don’t adopt a rescue pit that’s been abused and expect it to act perfectly around other animals just because you love it and are good to it.

My bf has a beautiful gentle polite and loving pit he and his wife got as a rescue dog. They put her with their other pit and then added a chi-pin. The two pits used to fight badly so when he divorced then he took one pit and the chi-pin. The pit has nipped at the chi-pin, puncturing it’s skin and muscle. I’ve seen her grab the chi-pin by the head, flip him over and go to town biting his head and belly, again he got cut by her teeth. A few days ago she bit my Pom on the head as he walked by her and we have no idea what provokes her, it’s sad and it’s very scary. We absolutely love her but I don’t believe she should be around other dogs.

brina9903's avatar

it’s the owners, pits are just like kids! give them love and teach them right from wrong and they will be big lovers! my pit was taught by previous owner to kill cats, i got her when she was three and had kittens and she raised them like they were her pups! she is the biggest baby of my kids and i couldn’t imagine my life without her, she’s the love of my life! bad owners are the ones who give pits a bad reputation! now if your a fly, you better watch out, she loves to catch bugs, it’s the funniest thing i’ve ever seen!!

kamcna02's avatar

I have owned my pit bull since she was a puppy. I rescued her after she had been dumped on the side of the road and she has been a joy to me ever since (hence my profile picture). I understand peoples belief that this dog is more prone to aggression than other dogs, but that is merely the case because so much negative has been focused on their breed. My dog is aggressive towards other dogs when they come into my house. She does not like other animals anywhere near her food, my bed, things she considers her territory. Outside of my apartment and at others homes she is an angel. In fact, at my parents house my mother’s Jack Russell bosses her around and dominates her the entire visit.

I am shocked to read so many people believing that this dog is merely prone to aggressive behavior and “turning” on its human owners. This is just not the case. This dog has been used in the military, was in “Little Rascals,” and even has been used as police dogs. My dog is definitely strong and has the capabilities to hurt me, but I trust this dog more so than any small dog I have ever owned (I have personally owned 2 chihuahuas, 2 Jack Russels, and 1 Basenji). At one point in time I even accidentally slammed her long tail in my car door. It was almost completely severed and she was crying. Instead of being protective and preventing me from viewing it and bandaging it, she was the opposite. Even after hurting her and causing her detrimental pain, this animal still had full trust in me.

People should make opinions after actually having experienced knowing one of these animals, especially after the dog has received proper training. I understand seeing a breed as this an avoiding the dog. My dog barks at strangers on walks, and I know it is intimidating, but as soon as the person gets close enough for her to see them her tail (newly amputated numb) starts wagging so fast her whole body wags. Some people might take her bark as intimidating and I completely understand that and respect peoples decisions to keep their distance. If people weren’t so completely consumed by what they are influenced by on television, however, they may come to realize that this breed of dog could be the most loyal and family oriented dog they have owned.

I was bit in the face by an Australian Shepard and the hand by a shitzu. Does that mean they are all horrible? No. My best friend had her lower lip bit off by her dalmation. It’s endless, the majority of animals have a tendency to snap on occasion because they are still animals and are unpredictable. Nothing about a pit bull makes them any different towards people though than other breeds. It’s just media hype. Maybe if people formed their own opinions instead of relying on what is consistently preached to them then this wouldn’t even be an issue right now.

It is all the trainer. http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

Maybe this will open everyone’s eyes a bit.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@kamcna02 There are unfortunately still many who make you good owners look bad, like my neighbor who’s pitt bull attacked my young cat CK. Good thing we were able to get the cat out if it’s mouth before real serious damage was done, but poor CK certainly used up one of his 9 lives there.

desiree333's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I am glad you understand that it is the owners. Evil pitt bulls are oubviously just a stereotype. The reason why pitt bulls have a negative reputation is because people who believe the breed is “blood thirsty” raise them to be so.

My cousin has a pit bull and she is the most gentle and loving dog. They bought two other puppies that were brothers and Eisley (the pitt bull) produced milk and nursed them as if they were her own.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@desiree333 I had some close acquaintances that ran homes for disabled children. Some of the children lived in their home. They had two pit bull breed living there with these kids and never and incident. I never heard of them having trouble getting or keeping certified because of the dogs. Their grand daughter would come over, and every since she could walk, some of the things she did to those poor dogs one would be sure any dog would not endure, much less the ”blood thirsty” pit bull. She would try to ride them as ponies, splash them with water, bop them with plastic bats, etc. Those dogs, those ”blood thirsty pits”, never even growled at her or tried to nip her once. sorry for the sarcasm in there, but was just trying to make imphasis.]

desiree333's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I’m not surprised at all, pitt bulls can be just as gentle and tolderant to children as any other breed. Those two dogs clearly have great owners. (:

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