Why don't we swap out rechargable batteries for laptops, cell phones and electric cars ?
I asked my cell phone provider and they said that they don’t do that. It seems common sense to always have an extra battery charging and not having to wait for a battery to charge. It would prevent a service interruption .
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A battery pack of a Tesla weighs 1200 pounds.
In order to swap an empty pack for a fully charged one you would have to bring it with you.
That’s another 1200.
Which greatly would reduce your mileage, I’m afraid.
Which would mean taking an ever bigger, thus heavier battery pack still.
Which would reduce your mileage even further.
Which would mean….......
@rebbel
You could embed the battery swapping service and the associated storage and recharge of additional batteries into the existing petrol station network.
Cost of a automotive hybrid battery is several thousand dollars (A friend with an older Prius had one replaced just under $2100 for battery and more for labor).
Each one is different in size and capacity.
Cellphones currently are sealed, so the owner cannot easily change the battery. Certain companies like Staples and Batteries Plus can and do change out dead batteries that will not charge. All cellphones I know of can be charged and be used at the same time.
@Tropical_Willie
Not sure what kind of phone you have, but mine pops open quite easily and the battery is even easier to remove.
@ragingloli My phone too. Is easy to access the battery.
@ragingloli this would not be popping out a couple of “D” cells and throw in two new “D” cells. See above about the different sizes and shapes. Each station would have to store many sizes maybe 8 or ten (what is the guarantee someone would come to them to charge the battery?) There are licensed installers other than the car dealers but they are few and far between.
@Tropical_Willie Maybe we could standardize the batteries ,like Windows for the PC In the 80’s . 90’s.
@raging my phone is (last five years with different phones) sealed.
@Tropical_Willie
That is where you force standardisation of battery types, and the way batteries are integrated into cars.
Tesla Super Swapper Stations!
The auto companies design the batteries to fit in the vehicle not the other way around, maybe if all Honda, Tesla, Kia, Lexus and Toyota looked alike the batteries would fit. But Tesla has several different size and class batteries in their vehicles.
Good luck forcing the car companies to do something that would restrict them from a cash flow of batteries or engines or transmissions.
@ragingloli don’t own an Iphone and have never owned one. They were different companies all using Android.
@Tropical_Willie
Then maybe you just do not know how to open your phone.
also, cars all have similar overall shapes and masses. finding a shape and size of battery to be shared among all of them should be trivial.
if you need more storage, instead of putting one big battery in, use several smaller ones, like instead of one big D battery, use 2 AA batteries.
modularisation. It is common.
@RedDeerGuy1 That is the oil companies, They had to have the nozzle fit, but the cars all have different size and shapes gas tanks in the vehicles (the battery is like a gas tank it has to fit the car.)
@Tropical_Willie Ok thanks. Just want to help progress and to have fun Fluthering. What is your solution?
I can “Break into the back of my phone” it is just not easy and why do you need to change the battery just because you didn’t have your phone on the charger.
Changing a battery because the battery won’t charge is a different thing.
One of the biggest, if not the biggest obstacle to widespread adoption of electric vehicles is recharging infrastructure.
Unless every company, with their insistence on proprietary battery types and interfaces, wants to build its own global infrastructure, they will have no choice but to agree to common standards.
What good is a proprietary standard, when you bleed money from building your own infrastructure, while much fewer people buy your products?
@Tropical_Willie
It is super easy to open the back of the phone and replace the battery.
why would you need to?
because you forgot to charge your battery, and have to leave the house immediately.
or the place you are going or are currently at, has no electricity.
or you are in a foreign country and you forgot your plug adaptor.
Okay my phone sits on a wireless charger when I get home, my cars have a charger for the phone. And if I use it for normal talking and some data it will last for 12 hours.
Oh my house was wired for 240 Volts in the garage for a Hybrid charger.
@ragingloli If you forgot your charger; chances are you forgot the back-up battery sitting next to and not on the charger at home.
I still have a note 4 because of this. I keep a 10 A/hr extended battery on charge and one in my phone. I simply swap batteries in the morning. Never have to worry about power because of that. I’m hoping there will still be some modern android phones with removeable batteries when this one is obsolete.
Swapping batteries frequently might cause issues in case of laptop / car I suppose. Shouldn’t be much problem with phone though. Still I would avoid it as constantly opening your phone may not be good. Charging them at a faster pace is more viable solution which they are already working on and have had success also in case of mobile. Not sure about any work being done for laptops / cars though.
The current involved with fast charging large batteries makes me cringe. I have extended the life of several android phones simply because the crappy usb connector they standardized on is only good for several hundred insertions. I can’t imagine what issues battery swapping would cause. Forklifts have been doing this for decades without issue. It’s possible with cars too. I would want both options.
That’ll probably be my only option once I have to get a new phone. I’m going to miss the simplicity of changing batteries every couple of days or so.
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