Why is Trump running for President even a topic for discussion?
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SABOTEUR (
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November 9th, 2023
I don’t get it. I’m listening to the talking heads discussing Trump’s popularity and his chance of winning the 2024 election and I can’t help asking myself:
Why would anyone want someone as despicable as Trump to be President of the United States?
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I think the bigger issue is that Trump thinks everyone else is disposable.
Sadly we are in a time of history where many people would rather throw something or someone away rather than educate and fix the issue or teach proper values.
All too many times you hear about those in power no longer view children as the promise of a future but as a threat to the present.
(OP) Apologies. I meant “despicable” not “disposable”.
“Disposable” works too, both for your question and @Forever_Free‘s answer.
Like it or not, he is.
For the other five wannabees, Trump is a good foil – he’s doing all the stupid stuff, so the other candidates can give the impression of competence. (ha ha ha).
In a sane world, Trump would already be in jail.
He wants to almost eliminate the FBI, the IRS and the EPA. It makes zero sense.
It speaks to the inchoate anger and gullibility of vast swathes of the American public. As for him, he hates losing and he probably sees it also as a “Get Out of Jail” ticket.
Why? Because many still view him as being an outsider. Even though he is clearly very guilty of the things he is being accused of, people see that as proof he is being disposed of as an unwanted outsider by those in the ruling circle. It almost comforts people to think such a circle exists and that we are not just aimlessly driving ourselves into oblivion. (We are) Then there is the economy which sucks, and people are struggling. Biden appears to be a walking corpse who is inept at solving these problems. He’s not really running anything, I’m not sure who is manning the captain’s chair to be honest. Do people want a ship without a captain or a madman? I can’t believe it’s going to come down to these choices again. If I’m being honest, Trump now appears to be doing many of the things Biden did to hide the fact his head was becoming unraveled. I strongly suspect Trump is also in some stage of cognitive decline. That really explains some of his behavior. All that said, so here we are. The crucial votes will come from the lower middle and working class who could desperately use some economic relief. When things start hitting the bottom line at home, many will become outwardly more conservative for various reasons. That’s not exactly because they’re conservative, it’s fear. The status quo is not working for them so they want this outsider savior figure. Guess who that is…
What’s amazing to me, also, is that he has a history of calling women “horse face,” “fat” and talking about grabbing them by the pussy, which is on tape, so there’s no doubt that he said it, and yet people, women included, love him still. They say “he has no filter and that’s why I like him.” Really?
@jca2 Yeah, they see that as proof he is “genuine” like it or not. In other words, you can believe things he says because he makes no attempt to hide the garbage spew. There is a grain of truth to it, to be fair. Do you want someone who is vile and open about it or someone who is and hides it? Then there is the entertainment factor. This is a spectacle and people want the entertainment. Mike Pence was 100% a better leader than Trump but he is as stale and mundane as they come. People would never “see” him as a leader because he can’t entertain them.
Hilary Clinton’s team encouraged the media to cover Trump seriously. If the media had instead treated him like they do Marianne Williamson then he would have been one of those failed candidates we all laugh about like Dan Quayle.
@gorillapaws I do believe team Hillary did everything they could to make sure Trump was the GOP candidate in order to clear a win for her. Boy, did that backfire.
Sunk cost fallacy. Too much blood and treasure has been spent trying to get Trump elected to go back now.
To beat the often dead horse, Hillary DID beat Trump by 3 million votes, but not in the Electoral college.
The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
Not that it matters 7 years later.
From what I’ve read, most Republicans would like Trump to go away. But I don’t think they’re saying that out loud because they don’t want to piss off his constituents who would probably then not vote for them in the next election. And as far as the presidential candidates, they still probably want to seem at least somewhat supportive of him because then when he ends up in prison, they are hoping to woo his voters away from him. But that option will be off the table if they have spoken out against him before that.
I can’t speak to why anyone would support his bid for president. It’s honestly beyond me.
That said, how is it not illegal to run for President if you are under indictment/investigation for a crime? If that’s cleared up and the person is exonerated — sure, have at it. But during?!
Crazy to me.
@cookieman Maybe Trumps base secretly agrees with him which others condemn him for?
Also some of his followers have invested too much to give up now.
@RedDeerGuy1 I agree, and although I think there are people who have totally deluded themselves into thinking that everything they hear from the media is totally fake, I do think there are those who at this point cannot accept the fact that they were so horribly wrong about Trump and so because of pride, they will not admit their error.
They should talk about him much less. They give his candidacy life.
It’s pathetic isn’t it?
I can’t understand why his recorded phone call that proves unequivocally and without a doubt he is guilty of some extremely serious crimes and abuse of office didn’t get him at the very least disqualified for running for ANY government office again…
I find pondering this question only serves to further my beliefs about the rampant corruption and self-serving nature of the US government’s leadership.
Worse. It gives me very little hope for humanity that so many people support him.
It’s important to remember that lot’s of POTUS voters are really just concerned about a few “big” issues. I was told by many conservatives that the only reason they voted for him is to ban abortions for instance…
That will be a huge issue for voters again in 2024.
If all of the women who bitch about men controlling their bodies stopped voting for conservatives, that right would have never been jeopardized…
ALL of Trump’s current power was gifted to him by voters. Otherwise, he’d be just a guy.
The dems are another reason.
Not developing other candidates, despite Joe’s age and/or what’s at stake in 2024, is inexcusable…
It’s really quite simple.
Ukraine
Immigration
Middle East
China
Inflation
None of these were an issue under Trump. Now we’re on the verge of WWIII. Why would anyone vote for Biden?
^How did Biden put us “on the verge of WWIII”? He didn’t start the war in Ukraine. He didn’t start the war in the Middle East. Immigration was a problem long before Biden came along. China? Not sure what you are blaming him for there.
I’ll give you inflation.
Can we please not have Biden or Trump? Aren’t they both at an age where they need to spend time with their families?
@Blackwater_Park Valid points, though I’m kinda slow and poorly educated. I tend to look at things in the simplest of terms. I judge people by their character. Sayings like “don’t say or do anything that might embarrass your mother”, and “be wary of anyone who disparages other people to make themselves look good” means something to me. That aside you would think that instigating actions to overthrow the government would have been more than enough to automatically disqualify Trump from the Presidency. Apparently none of these things matter.
In the simplest of terms, money and power allow people to do just about anything they want to do; Constitution/laws be damned. And the American people find the privilege afforded the rich and famous acceptable as long as they’re appropriately entertaining or (as in Trump’s case) they espouse hateful rhetoric that mirrors their own harmful values.
So, in the simplest of terms, voting for President is nothing more than a popularity contest. “America’s Got Talent”; no talent required. (No integrity a plus.) We’d probably be better off merging Presidential elections with beauty contests. At least we’d have someone attractive to look at while we’re being screwed.
That’s how I feel. May as well put all the candidates in an episode of big brother and decide elections that way.
@SABOTEUR You don’t present as someone either slow or poorly educated. I hope you were simply being self-deprecating. ;)
@smudges, @MrGrimm888 You’re very kind…thank you. A little self-deprecation works wonders toward reminding myself I’m nowhere near being the smartest guy in the room. On those occasion that I do choose to comment it reminds me to phrase my words carefully to avoid someone else advising me I’m not the smartest guy in the room.
But it is true that I tend to see things in basic terms. Naivete perhaps? Keeping things simple makes makes it easier for me to understand.
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